Reply From: "A.j. Effin ReznoR" <sporkt_private> > >Forgive my shady memory, but wasn't there an article on this list less > >than a month ago stating that ICSA didn't hire "black hats", or as the > >article put it "reformed hackers"? > > We do not. We will not. So it is not safe to take someone who has been on the dark side, and use them. So it is safe to take someone, whose moral resolve has never been tested, and is therefore an unknown value, and let him roam in the dark reaches of the hacker community. OK. So, I therefore also assume that said hackers trolling the darkness have undergone suffcient psychological profiling prior to hiring, so that there is a guarnatee that you may release them to the rough waters of the Underground, knowing they will never be tainted or led astray. Is this correct? Someone that has gone astray and repented may be a 'liability' but to say that one has never reformed is garbage. What is a 'black hat hacker'? Someone that has trashed many systems for cheap thrills, or one that has entered sites (mind you, still illegal) but has looked, understood, and left, causing no harm or foul? The answer, is both are. Not all 'black hats' are criminals. Given this realistic reasoning, is there any reform to be fone to the non-criminal 'black hat' other than he no longer entering systems not authorized to test? Beleive what you will, however. Given that many of the Underground are skilled, and honest, undamaging types, there is no repenting to be done, and the goverment and private sector has benefited greatly from finally owning up to this fact. Oh, don't refer to him as J3, please. The Underground already has a J3. :) I am still curious as to the intestinal fortutide of someone that associates with hackers online. He potentially could, through association and his studies for college, easily be drawn into the glamor of the darkside. Again, an untested induhvidual. +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ | .:= A.j. Effin ReznoR =:. | "It's a violent peace | | | that will conquer the world" | | "Eagles may soar, but weasels don't | http://www.whocares.com/~arrogance | | get sucked into jet engines" | /self.indulgant.crap.html | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ "We'll make some calls, we'll break some balls" -o- Subscribe: mail majordomot_private with "subscribe isn". Today's ISN Sponsor: Repent Security Incorporated [www.repsec.com]
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