Re: [ISN] Securing the Nest

From: mea culpa (jericho@dimensional.com)
Date: Wed Oct 07 1998 - 17:54:57 PDT

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    Reply From: //Stany <stany@zerkalo.istar.net>
    
    > Forwarded From: Eric Budke <budke@budke.com>
    > 
    > [Just my two cents.  But any tiger team left to try whatever they want,
    >  and can't get into a sun box, one should rethink the team.  Either the
    >  article stretches the truth a little, or the "tiger team" didn't hear of
    >  an external scsi drive and an install CD.  
    >  (My experience is with Sun.  AIX I believe handles things similarly, HP I
    >  don't know)	- Eric Budke]
    
    The thing that might slow down the tiger team would be the PROM password,
    more so, when full security is enabled.  They wouldn't be able to start up
    a system off a non-default device, or at all without knowing the magic
    word. 
    
    But it is trivial to get rid of password.  If in medium security mode (ie
    can only boot witout password) one has to replace the default start-up
    drive with a working drive that one has root on.  After system booting up,
    and one logging in as root, one has to use eeprom command to disable
    security-mode.  
    
    root@http.notbsd:/[15]# eeprom security-mode=none
    
    It gets a wee bit hairy if the system is in full security mode. 
    Essentially all one has to do is to obtain a compatible PROM chip (I have
    done this in sun4m and sun4c systems) that doesn't have a password,
    replace the PROM with the new chip, boot the system up to rom monitor, and
    on a running system *carefully* swap the PROMs once again.  Then
    set-defaults, reset, and voila! System is wide open for any physical
    access "exploits" that once can think of. 
    
    So I have to agree.  The Tiger Team as described is rather pathetic.
    
    //Stany
    
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