FW: [ISN] Microsoft failing security test?

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Date: Tue Jan 15 2002 - 22:03:39 PST

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    Forwarded from: "McDonald Patrick" <mcdonald_patrickat_private>

Chris brought up a very good point and I stand corrected.

Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Wysopal [mailto:cwysopalat_private]
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:07 PM
To: isnat_private; mcdonald_patrickat_private
Subject: Re: [ISN] Microsoft failing security test? 



>Forwarded from: McDonald Patrick <mcdonald_patrickat_private>
>
>I have to respectfully disagree with Chris Wysopal.
>
><snip>
>
>"Chris Wysopal, director of research and development for security
>company @Stake, argued that an early warning can sometimes actually
>hurt security, tipping off malicious attackers to the vulnerability."
>
><snip>
>
>Does early warning help script kiddies, most definitely.  However it
>also helps admins protect their systems against these attacks.  A
>script kiddie can't use an exploit that an admin has prepared against.
>Thus the exploit is useless against an informed admin.

Seems there was some selective <snip>ing.  You left out the part where I
say. "It does make sense to warn people up front that they can take actions
now". If admins/users can take action on their own it is a good idea to let
them know.

The complete context is this:

<snip>

Chris Wysopal, director of research and development for security company
@Stake, argued that an early warning can sometimes actually hurt security,
tipping off malicious attackers to the vulnerability.

Still, Wysopal said, with the Plug and Play incident, Microsoft could have
told customers to just turn off the function if they weren't using it.

"It does make sense to warn people up front that they can take actions
now," Wysopal said. "I would like to see people not rely on patches so
much. I was disappointed with the FBI's retraction (after they) proposed a
solution that did not require a patch."

<snip>

Cheers,

Chris



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