Forwarded from: Bill Barrett <bill_barrettat_private> Website defacements are no more than graffiti in digital form. Should their entire lives be ruined because they did this? how about if they were doing it with a can of spray paint on the side of your office building? and exactly what are the monetary damages? While it's easy to say how much it cost to have a painter remove a spray-paint tag it's a lot harder to quantify the cost of running a restore from backup and slapping on the patch you should already have. Am I saying these kids should go off scott free? Hell no. But every time I hear about all the costs for this or that defacement and the talk about millions of dollars you have to wonder where they are getting this information. Yes, ignorance does not justify attack. But if you are an admin its you JOB to know how to secure your servers. If you leave your servers wide open to attack and they get hacked and you get fired it's your own damn fault for not going down to the local Barnes&Noble and picking up a couple books on how to secure your servers. As far as these kids go make em pick up trash every weekend for 10 hours a day for a few months and give em a fine that will put a hurt on them. oh and put a suspended sentence over their heads so if they f-up again they do some extra jail time in addition to their sentence. but that's just my opinion i could be wrong. -WTB isnat_private writes: >Forwarded from: leon <leonat_private> > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >I would like to say that anytime a website gets defaced there are >always monetary damages. There are always qualitative damages that >are hard to put a dollar figure on. If a customer goes to the gap >website and finds it defaced are they going to feel comfortable doing >business with them over the web? Also the webservers admin probably >gets fired or reprimanded and some might just not know how to secure >their webservers. Ignorance doesn't beg or justify attack. > >The fact that these kids are going to get off with just a slap on the >wrist does not seem fair. What do other people think? > >Cheers, > >Leon > >http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,79686,00.asp > >ROME -- Italian police have identified six members of a hacker group >charged with attacking thousands of Web sites in 62 countries, >replacing official home pages with anti-globalization slogans, >finance [...] - ISN is currently hosted by Attrition.org To unsubscribe email majordomoat_private with 'unsubscribe isn' in the BODY of the mail.
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