[ISN] FC: Richard Clarke misstates Canadian elections cancelled? (fwd)

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    From: Declan McCullagh <declanat_private>
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    Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 14:06:47 -0500
    Subject: FC: Richard Clarke misstates Canadian elections cancelled?
    
    [I don't mean to pick on Richard Clarke, and will give his office (or, for
    that matter, Clarke defenders) a right of reply. At the same time, it seems
    that we should hold government officials to a high standard of accuracy,
    particularly when there's always the danger of exaggeration and
    scaremongering to (a) make yourself seem more important and thereby fatten
    your paycheck at your next (probably private sector) job, (b) increase
    funding for your own .gov fiefdom and those run by your friends, and (c)
    argue for new, intrusive, and arguably unwarranted regulations imposed on
    technology firms. Previous message: http://www.politechbot.com/p-04403.html
    --Declan]
    
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    From: gabriel <the.angel.gabrielat_private>
    To: declanat_private
    Subject: Re: FC: Richard Clarke's resignation message, and final warning
    Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 12:56:56 -0500
    
    On February 4, 2003 09:08 am, Declan McCullagh wrote:
     > A national election/referendum in Canada was canceled
    
    Just for the record, the "national election/referendum in Canada" was the NDP
    leadership election and it wasn't cancelled, the voting tally was delayed due
    to high internet traffic.  The election however did finish with a full count
    and a delgate emerged a winner.  How very sad it is that the American
    government thinks so highly of itself and yet can't get simple facts
    straight.
    
    -- 
    an intellectual is a man who takes more words than necessary
    to tell more than he knows.
       - dwight d. eisenhower
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    Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2003 14:08:22 -0400
    To: declanat_private
    From: Ivan Smith <rustfrogat_private>
    Subject: Richard Clarke badly misinformed
    
    Richard Clarke wrote, about the Sapphire Worm:
    "A national election/referendum in Canada was canceled."
    
    This is wholly untrue.  The last national election in Canada was in
    November 2000, and the next one won't happen until 2004.  There has never
    been a national referendum in Canada, and there is no discussion of any
    plan to hold one at any future time.  There was no such cancellation, or
    anything that could reasonably be interpreted as one.
    
        Ivan Smith
        9847 Main Street
        Canning, Nova Scotia, Canada   B0P 1H0
        902-582-3783
    
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    Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 09:25:07 -0700
    From: "Patrick J. Kobly" <pkoblyat_private>
    To: Declan McCullagh <declanat_private>
    Subject: Re: FC: Richard Clarke's resignation message, and final warning
    Message-ID: <20030204162507.GA6329at_private>
    
    On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 09:08:09AM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
    <SNIP>
     > A national election/referendum in
     > Canada was canceled.
    <SNIP>
    
    ???  I'm Canadian, and I'm completely unaware of any "national election /
    referendum" which was supposed to take part but didn't.  The last election
    listed at www.elections.ca was a by-election December 9, 2002.
    
    The New Democratic Party (4th in number of seats in the House) had a
    leadership convention / vote, and their internet voting was slow, but other
    than that, the vote went well.
    
    Either way, it is highly unlikely that a national election here would be
    severely affected by computer problems, as counting is done by hand at the
    polling station, with computers being used solely for tabulation.
    
    PK
    -- 
    Using encryption on the Internet is the equivalent of arranging an
    armored car to deliver credit-card information from someone living in a
    cardboard box to someone living on a park bench.
                                             -- Eugene Spafford
    
    
    
    
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