Forwarded from: Jon Miller <cio.nyat_private> I suppose we have a different view of what should be tolerated and what should not amuse... Maybe if you watched the planes crash into the WTC, and their subsequent burn and collapse, live - not on TV; burying thousands, including many of your friends, you might feel differently. Maybe I'm a bit too sensitive about this (& my comments are of course my own and not necessarily representative of my Agency.) But specific to the "crime" I don't feel that his education and career should be damaged as a result of what you call a prank, & said so in my earlier post. Tolerating the impersonating of police officers (as opposed to dressing in costume) is a bit different than running naked through the streets, and should be treated as such. _________________________________ Jon Miller, CISSP, GSEC Chief Security Officer The City of New York, HRA Management Information Systems -----Original Message----- From: owner-isnat_private [mailto:owner-isnat_private] On Behalf Of InfoSec News Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:37 AM To: isnat_private Subject: Re: [ISN] Student arrested for allegedly hacking university computers to derail election Forwarded from: Russell Coker <russellat_private> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:50, Jon Miller wrote: > That this student chose to use his skills to exploit a university > computer system (not well known for security in general) is > troubling. It wasn't by accident that he did this, and unless he's > been living on another planet for the past couple of years, he knows > that we don't and shouldn't have a sense of humor about such things. Normally we don't have a sense of humor about public nudity, drunken disorderly behaviour, vandalism, unlicensed radio transmission, offensive language used in radio and public performances, and all the other things that are well tolerated at university functions. Even offenses such as impersonating police officers and theft (although temporary) of police property are treated lightly when performed by university students as part of a "prank". Why should rigging an election be treated more seriously than the huge number of other minor crimes committed by university students which are often ignored by the police? It seems to me that a common police practice when dealing with student pranks is to compell the students to repair or pay for any damage that they cause and then let them off with a warning. Why not just get the student to clean the floors of the computer labs for half a year? It will be enough punishment to deter them from doing it again (often magistrates give less punishment), it will provide some benefit to the university, and everyone will save the time and effort that goes into prosecuting the case. - ISN is currently hosted by Attrition.org To unsubscribe email majordomoat_private with 'unsubscribe isn' in the BODY of the mail.
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : Mon Jun 30 2003 - 03:10:02 PDT