Forwarded from: security curmudgeon <jericho@private> There have been two good responses to this, both supporting David Litchfield's stance and citing more examples. : ---------- Forwarded message ---------- : From: David Litchfield <davidl@private> : To: bugtraq@private, ntbugtraq@private : Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 16:01:26 -0000 : Subject: Opinion: Complete failure of Oracle security response and utter neglect : of their responsibility to their customers : : Dear security community and Oracle users, : : Many of my customers run Oracle. Much of the U.K. Critical National : Infrastructure relies on Oracle; indeed this is true for many other : countries as well. I know that there's a lot of private information : about me stored in Oracle databases out there. I have good reason, like : most of us, to be concerned about Oracle security; I want Oracle to be : secure because, in a very real way, it helps maintain my own personal : security. As such, I am writing this open letter http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/bugtraq/2005-10/0060.html From: Cesar (cesarc56 @yahoo.com) To: David Litchfield (davidl@private), bugtraq@private, tbugtraq@private Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Opinion: Complete failure of Oracle security response and utter neglect of their responsibility to their customers I support David 100% and I would like to add a few comments (I cant avoid doing this :)): I remember reading an article where Larry Ellison said that Oracle database server were used by FBI, CIA, USSR goverment, etc. he referenced that as saying our software is the most secure, top goverment agencies from the most powerful nations use it. If you hear or read that it sounds great and if you were looking for a database server at that moment maybe you would run to buy Oracle software, the same when you hear and read Oracle Unbreakable everywhere. What Larry Ellison says it is very easy to say but it is also very difficult to prove. It seems that this kind of statements have been useful for Oracle since the company continues doing the same, just talking. I can say that we at Argeniss break Oracle database server all the time, we are tired of breaking Oracle, its so easy, Oracle software is full of security vulnerabilities and this is nothing new, most security researchers know about this and also the bad guys who are actively exploiting the vulnerabilities. But I can say this and I can also prove it, we have found more than a hundred vulnerabilities and we can show them to people. I wonder if Larry Ellison can prove all the statements he says or Oracle people say. [..] http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/bugtraq/2005-10/0079.html From: ak@red-database-security.com To: bugtraq@private Date: 7 Oct 2005 20:13:13 -0000 Subject: Re: Re: Opinion: Complete failure of Oracle security response and utter neglect of their responsibility to their customers I agree with Davids and Cesars opinion. Here are 3 examples how Oracle is dealing with security: [..] _________________________________________ InfoSec News v2.0 - Coming Soon! http://www.infosecnews.org
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