Re: Solaris /usr/bin/mailx exploit (SPARC)

From: Greg A. Woods (woodsat_private)
Date: Tue May 15 2001 - 11:00:13 PDT

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    [ On Tuesday, May 15, 2001 at 13:46:23 (+0200), Johann Klasek wrote: ]
    > Subject: Re: Solaris /usr/bin/mailx exploit (SPARC)
    >
    > To correct slightly the picture of a set-gid mail environment: 
    > 
    > set-gid has nothing to do with writing the inbox. It was in old days
    > (without todays 1000 permission) the only method to allow mail clients
    > the creation of .lock files and the inbox file itself in
    > /var/spool/mail. It was never necessary to let the inbox writeable for
    > group "mail" (of course, probably not true in very old System 7
    > environments). Therefore, a 600 permission does NOT implicate an
    > unnecessary group mail setup. The delivery into a mailbox is
    > accomplished with user (inbox owner) permission (derived from the set-
    > uid root MTA).
    
    To correct that mis-information:
    
    	V7 used setuid-root /bin/mail for delivery  (it was insecure)
    
    	A correct implementation of SysV mail with setgid-mail does
    	indeed require that mailboxes be writable by the group mail.
    
    	The system mailbox spool directory must not be world writable.
    
    	SysV mail is designed to eliminate *ALL* need for setuid-root!
    
    By now you might have realised that SysV mail requires chown() to be
    usable by non-root.  If so then you're right.  It's not compatible with
    naive filesystem-based quotas.  Pick one: a) root compromises, or b)
    quotas.  Actually, you don't have to -- you can implement mailbox quotas
    in the mail delivery agent and you can put your mailbox directory on a
    separate filesystem such that you don't have to use FS quotas there.
    
    BSD's setuid-root mail subsystem is stupidly insecure, but many of us
    do live with its risks every day.....  :-(
    
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