RE: SECURITY.NNOV: Netscape 4.7x Messanger user information retrival

From: Andrew Gerweck (gerweckat_private)
Date: Thu Jun 07 2001 - 11:47:06 PDT

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    > does not qualify as an exploit.  This information would seem
    > useful only if we believed that security through obscurity had
    > merit.  Compound this with the fact that most people are not even
    
    Doesn't security by obscurity have some value?  
    
    In my opinion, it's naive to think that it's okay for software to
    disclose unnecessary information about its users.  While obscurity
    alone is hardly a good security policy, it's one tool in a toolbox
    that can help keep a system secure.
    
    I don't think that there are many examples of functional security
    systems that don't involve obscurity on some level.  Whether it's a
    private key, a secret password or a unique credit card number, or the
    particular patterns on your fovea, there's always something obscure
    involved in security.
    
    Particularly in the case of massively used software, obscurity isn't
    always a bad thing.  Contrary to popular slogans, obscurity is often
    preferable to nothing, and can complement a real security policy
    quite nicely.  I'm not advocating the obscurity in which security
    holes in widely used software are kept secret.  I think that certain
    internet security communities do themselves a great disservice by
    pretending that obscurity means nothing.  That mentality is useful
    when designing a security policy, but not as a mantra for application
    to every situation.
    
    I'm trying to avoid a flamewar by repeating: obscurity is not a good
    security policy.  It is often useful to treat it as completely
    valueless.  I'm simply suggesting that it's not valueless in all
    cases, and we understand unnecessary information disclosure to
    represent a security problem, instead of dismissing it.
    
    --Andrew Gerweck
    
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