This message is intended for Anonymous. I have no other way to respond other than to send it through the list. I am sorry to clog the CRIME list with this, however, I feel something needs to be said here to Anonymous since he/she made this public: First of all, if you are not comfortable criticizing someone without identifying yourself, then you should not do it in the first place. I certainly would have given no one in the group any reason to make them feel that if they would say something to me that it would come back to "haunt them". You say you believe we have met; if you have nothing to fear and are a professional, then you would reveal who you are, and not hide behind "Anonymous." I am an adult, and certainly can take criticism, although I do think it could have been done in a more professional and polite way than it was done here. I was not aware that it was not okay to ask questions like I have asked. I did get some very helpful responses from a number of people, including ways to find out some of these things for myself, which I thank them for, and which I see you did here as well, but in a very rude manner. As far as the comment to John, that was a misunderstanding due to wording of an e-mail that he had sent me, and the response was not meant to go to the CRIME list, that was an error, I believe John and I have resolved the misunderstanding, which was my fault and I apologized to him. There have been a number of things that have come across the list which have not been very professional, and in fact very distasteful, and it is my understanding some members have requested to be dropped off the list due to this. CRIME/Infragard should be represented in a very professional manner, which I think most people here have been, with the exception of a couple. If it will please the group, I will refrain from asking elementary questions. Again, thank you to those who were very helpful. -----Original Message----- From: owner-crime@/var/spool/majordomo/lists/crime [mailto:owner-crime@/var/spool/majordomo/lists/crime]On Behalf Of Anonymous Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 1:06 PM To: crime@private Subject: RE: Scam At 11:40 AM 11/6/01 -0800, Heidi wrote: >John, excuse me for putting the question out on the CRIME list. Some people >did not respond the way you did and were very helpful. Some of us out here >are learning and do not have the experience you do. I am sorry for >"clogging" the CRIME list. I had also already acknowledged that I got the >message it was a hoax and thanked everyone for their responses and hoped >that would stop any further responses. Heidi I can't speak for John or anyone else but, in all honesty Heidi, you ask questions that are often marginal and deal with very elementary issues and reflect both ignorance, which is no- fault, but also a failure to do any basic research at all, which I have a problem with. For example a Google search on "Nigerian fraud" yields the Secret Service on the first page of hits: http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/alert419.htm The USSS has a database for these frauds and you can either fax them to (202) 406-5031 or e- mail them to 419.fcd@private On Denial of Service attacks, the first page of Google hits yields Dave Dietrich's page up at U.Washington with a huge amount of information including ingress and egress filtering. So I would encourage you to try some basic research before you show your ignorance in the future and I would encourage the group to respond to any elementary questions with URL's instead of a quick summary paragraph and apply the truism, "if you teach a (wo)man to fish." IRT anonymous? Heidi, I believe we've met and I don't feel comfortable criticizing you without fear that it will come back to haunt me.
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