Re: CRIME Dockworker lockout- OT

From: brvarin@private
Date: Mon Oct 07 2002 - 07:28:22 PDT

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    We'd have to be crazy to have high-tech workers to go union. Even though
    the job market isn't good now, you can still try and find a job and bargain
    with your salary. With a union *they* negotiate it for you. Look no further
    than the teachers union....To be a teacher in Oregon you are required to
    get a freakin *masters* degree and with that masters degree you'll start
    out at less than $30,000 a year. After 20 or so years you might make $55K.
    Older teachers had PERS but that's gone now. What is worse is that you may
    be a really good teacher but you'll still make less than some worthless
    teacher that's got in more years than you do. Oh yeah, how many of you want
    to fork over $60 a month to the Union so they can buy political ads for
    causes you A) don't support or B) don't care about?
    
    
    
    
    
    From:  sugahara@privateat_private on 10/06/2002 06:53 PM
    
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    Subject:    CRIME Dockworker lockout- OT
    
    
    First off, thanks for everyone's feedback and discussion on the issue
    of technology in the state.  It was a great discussion and it was great
    to see some new posters out here.
    
    This is a little off topic in terms of crime, but it does have specific
    implications for the technology industry.
    
    It seems to me that the entire problem with the lockout hinges with the
    potential elimination of union jobs (data entry) through the use of
    technology.  The issue is for the union is the loss of those jobs.
    However, they want to ensure that any technology jobs that are created
    are included in the union.  This brings up the question:  would a union
    be good and/or necessary for jobs in the technology field?
    
    
    
    
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