This has been an excellent discussion so far.
We have discovered that there is a difference between rights and priveleges, and that priveleges may be limited, or eliminated if the appropriate circumstances exist. We, as guardians of both the rights of the people, and the rights of corporations and governments, are required to clearly define for out client communities, what are rights and what are priveleges.
In the Federal sector, our user training and all our warning banners make it clear to employees and contractors that any information that is created, transmitted or stored on our systems (government systems) is the property of the government regardless of the nature of the content. However, we do provide safeguards that keep other people from "peeking" at other peoples information, and from managers of other government officials looking at it without authorization.
It is a delicate balance, and some times it is a real pain to manage. But, it's worth the effort and the politics
K.d>
-----Original Message-----
From: Crispin Cowan [mailto:crispin@private]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 9:36 PM
To: Kuo, Jimmy
Cc: CRIME
Subject: Re: CRIME Privacy Vs Security
Kuo, Jimmy wrote:
>OTOH, people must also realize the difference between rights and privileges.
>
Excellent point:
* Travel within and outside the US is a right of citizens, while
driving a vehicle or riding in a plane is a privilege
* Free expression is a right, while specific expressions (yelling
"Fire!" or accusing someone of a crime) and specific forums (my
printing press, my mailbox) are privileges
It is important for the government to regulate specific forms of
expression and travel. But it is critical that these regulations be
content-neutral, and not be so restrictive as to effectively curtail
travel or free expression.
>And now to bring us back to topic about internet security. Is it a right or
>a privilege to drive on the Information SuperHighway? I tend to view it
>more as a privilege.
>
In general, it is a right: the government should not be able to ban any
person entirely from the Internet.
In specific, it is a privilege: abuse your connectivity (spamming,
fraud, cyber-attack) and you lose your connectivity, and perhaps go to jail.
Hmmm ... yesterday I said I approximately never wanted to give up
freedom for security. <crispin quickly thinks up a rationalization> Aha!
I meant that I didn't want to give up the things above cited as rights
for security, but that managing the privileges is ok. The fine line
between the two is the gap between my fist and Jimmy's nose :)
Crispin
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