Re: CRIME FW: [Information_technology] Daily News 9/15/03

From: Rocky Gregory (rockygregory@dsl-only.net)
Date: Mon Sep 15 2003 - 15:21:17 PDT

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    That is how it is done indeed.  The key to this round is that when
    they are setting up new voicemail boxes they are using weak default
    passwords.
    
    
    
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    >
    >---- Original Message ----
    >From: mschuette@private
    >To: crime@private
    >Subject: Re: CRIME FW: [Information_technology] Daily News 9/15/03
    >Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 14:06:31 -0700
    >
    >>1) hack the mailbox
    >>2) record the greeting to include 'yes' at certain intervals that
    >match 
    >>with the collect call process
    >>3) call collect to batswana and use the voicemail number to charge
    >it to
    >>4) att operator connects to voicemail box and gets 'authorization'
    >from 
    >>a prerecorded voice which they mistake for a real person
    >>5) unaware voicemail owner gets large invoice next billing cycle
    >>6) att refuses to waive charges because of the access gained through
    >
    >>default and weak pin codes
    >>
    >>anyone feel free to correct my recall on how the scam worked
    >>
    >>Raan Young wrote:
    >>
    >>>>Voice mail hijacked to accept collect calls from crooks. The words
    >"Yes, Yes, Yes" ...
    >>>>    
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>>I'm missing something.  It's not clear to me what point there is to
    >this.
    >>>
    >>>I haven't made a collect call in a long time, but it used to be
    >that the operator would ask
    >>>the receiver if they would accept a collect call from so and so,
    >then make the connection if
    >>>they agreed.
    >>>
    >>>So it seems like all this con would do is leave somebody connected,
    >via a collect call, to
    >>>the victim's voicemail box.  Other than as a prank (or a way to
    >drive up AT&T's income :-) I
    >>>don't see any value to this.
    >>>
    >>>Can somebody enlighten me?
    >>>
    >>>Raan
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>  
    >>>
    >>
    



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