Re: CRIME administrivia: closing the list

From: Shaun Savage (savages@private)
Date: Mon Nov 03 2003 - 17:15:34 PST

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    Zot O'Connor wrote:
    > On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 13:39, Mark Morrissey wrote:
    > 
    >>One of the topics that comes up periodically is whether or not to close
    >>the list. By 'close', I mean invoke the majordomo option that restricts
    >>postings such that the originating email address must be subscribed to the
    >>list for the posting to be successful.
    >>
    >>In the past, this has been opposed as some people want to read at one
    >>location and reply from a different location (such as work and home). This
    >>would necessitate subscribing from multiple locations.
    >>
    >>A possible solution would be to subscribe using both accounts but put one
    >>account in 'postpone' or suspend mode that would not deliver the email
    >>but permit the posting. The majordomo software in use for our email server
    >>does not support this option.
    > 
    > 
    > Majordomo (unlike mailman) has a neat feature.  You can include other
    > posters in the allowed posters file.  This you create a second mail list
    > (crime-posters) that people can easily subscribe too, that never gets
    > any posts.
    > 
    > 
    >>However, SPAM is beginning to affect the signal to noise ratio (although
    >>some may argue that point  :-) on the list and there is the risk that PSU
    >>will become labeled by the various black hole services as an open relay.
    > 
    > 
    > Is spamassassin not working?  It seems that a newer version should catch
    > all the spam I see on this list.  
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >>I would like to hear from those opposing this change. In this case,
    >>silence will be equated with assent. To keep the discussions of meta
    >>discussions to the minimum, I am asking that people email me directly
    >>unless you really feel the need to send your reply to the entire group.
    > 
    > 
    > Well, this is a bad statement
    >   "silence == assent"
    >   do not email the list.
    > Thus the list sees only silence, and therefore assent.
    > 
    > So I ask people to email this list, since this is a direct issue for
    > people here, while meta to the list, the list is 1/3 of CRIME really, so
    > meta == CRIME.
    > 
    > A while back I did an examination of the posters vs the subscribers. 
    > They are fairly different.  This is the main reasons I have opposed the
    > posters-only approach.  Since this list get cross-posted, and sometimes
    > linked to USENET (against requests) people regular use spam catching
    > emails.
    > 
    > So I generally support posters_only, if, and only if, there is a good
    > mechanism for dealing with valid non-subscription posters.  Mailman has
    > its notifications.  Is there any quarantine for the majordomo system
    > there?  Do you have enough control to add one?  (I think I did that a
    > few years ago to a majordomo system per list).
    > 
    > 
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