RE: CRIME Save a Chatlog... Go to Prison?

From: Robert D. Young (Robert@private)
Date: Tue Apr 13 2004 - 20:33:19 PDT

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    Verrrry interesting. That contradicts what I've been told by several
    Oregon lawyers (and good ones, too). I'll have to look more into this...
    
    - Robert
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Warren Harrison [mailto:warren@private] 
    Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 7:57 PM
    To: Robert D. Young
    Cc: CRIME List
    Subject: Re: CRIME Save a Chatlog... Go to Prison?
    
    Robert D. Young wrote:
    
    >It's my understanding from what the lawyers have told me that the 
    >one-party state rules are applicable only when both parties are in the 
    >same state. Of course, it may also work if someone in Missouri calls 
    >someone in Oregon (also a one-party state), but I'll wait for someone 
    >with a legal background to advise me before I'll try it. In the 
    >meantime, I'll continue to inform anyone I suspect may be out-of-state 
    >before I start any substantive recording (i.e., I'll record their 
    >denial or acceptance, regardless).
    >
    >- Robert
    >  
    >
    
    Just so no one gets into trouble, in Oregon you only need one person's
    permission, but *both* parties have to be aware of the recording.  ORS
    165.540(c) says:
    
       [no person shall ... ] obtain the whole or any part of a conversation
    by means of
       any device [...] if all parties in the conversation are not
    specifically informed
       that their conversation is being obtained.
    
    so you should also be informing people in Oregon before you start *any*
    recording. I am not sure if this was implied in your e-mail or not, but
    just so others don't think they can record their conversations with
    someone else in Oregon without informing them.
    
    There are exceptions for educational classes, public meetings, etc.
    
    Violation is an A class misdemeanor.
    
    Warren
    
    
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