Re: Where are greater risks?

From: daniel heinonen (d.heinonenat_private)
Date: Wed Jun 27 2001 - 22:42:05 PDT

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    BTW i did send this on the 25th and didn't seem to go through sorry if it 
    gets double posted.
    
    Hi Marian,
    
    Great questions, lets put what I have read to the test. My understanding is 
    when coverts take place the examiner brings their own machine.  If the 
    machine is off then great.
    
    BTW what is the general consensus on what to do if a machine is on? Pull 
    power out, shutdown etc..
    
    A page that documents these items in detail can be found at
    http://www.securityfocus.com/focus/ih/articles/crimeguide1.html
    
    Examiner takes photos how the case is found and the scene so that it can be 
    put in place when finished.
    Takes screws off case
    Earth yourself
    Documents what is inside machine (ram, pci slots, cpu etc..)
    unplug hard drive (dont have to take it out of drive bay)
    plug hard drive into examiners machine
    Image all drives
    Boot suspect machine without a hard drive plugged in and if possible print 
    what the bios is showing
    Things you would look for here are current date shown, boot order, size 
    hard drive is shown
    Put everything back how it was. (Some computer search team have people whom 
    their job is to make sure
    everything is put back in place exactly how it was found)
    
    WARNING - some cases like the dells will record if you take the cover off
    
    Yes there are problems with this like what if it has bad sectors and so 
    forth but make sure you document
    these events.
    
    It is important also that you have sufficient case management systems, 
    documentation and your equipment does
    what you think it does. Eg mounts drives read only.
    
    Hope this helps, read the URL it will help you.
    
    Btw never had experience, but all is from talking to police, common sense 
    and reading articles on the web.
    
    -Daniel
    
    At 10:05 AM 22/06/01 +0200, you wrote:
    >Let?s have real situation:
    >
    >Problem:
    >You have to make image of disk on crime scene.
    
    
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