Re: Q on external router

From: Eric Vyncke (evynckeat_private)
Date: Thu Apr 23 1998 - 13:32:09 PDT

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    Thomas,
    
    Do not misread me, I'm by no way saying that a `mostly dumb'
    ethernet switch can replace a firewall... I'm just saying that
    instead of using a hub for a DMZ, you can use another device
    that can increase your security.
    
    If it fails (buggy software, ...), you are back to square #1.
    But, it is at least an additional layer of security and I
    am willing to use as much as possible of security layers to
    protect my networks/hosts.
    
    And, even if my fellow software engineers won't agree with me,
    I agree with you: switch are not designed/developped with security
    as the first requirement. Nevertheless, their code is much
    shorter than a firewall/router, so, statistically they `should'
    have less security bugs. But, wait and see...
    
    -eric
    
    PS: I'm just discussing generic topics about switches and not
    only about my employeer's ones.
    
    At 15:15 23/04/98 -0500, tqbfat_private wrote:
    >> Thus, in my opinion (but have a look at my email address to see
    >> that I could be biased ;-) ), the switch can increase the DMZ security
    >> if:
    >> - it uses static mapping
    >> - as you put part of your security in the switch configuration, you
    >>   must obviously secure your switch config (OTP, ACL, management via
    >>   console only, ...)
    >
    >What about problems that fault the switch itself? We have seen bugs that
    >crash 3Com switches due to poor IP stack implementation; Cisco is aware of
    >bugs that affect their Catalyst platforms as well. What assurance do we
    >have that switches are implemented with the same attention to security as
    >firewalls? 
    >
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    >Thomas H. Ptacek			     		Secure Networks, Inc.
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    >http://www.enteract.com/~tqbf	"If you're so special, why aren't you dead?"
    > 
    Eric Vyncke      
    Technical Consultant               Cisco Systems Belgium SA/NV
    Phone:  +32-2-778.4677             Fax:    +32-2-778.4300
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