Re: The Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures taxonomy

From: Adam Shostack (adamat_private)
Date: Thu Oct 21 1999 - 09:39:01 PDT

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    On Thu, Oct 21, 1999 at 12:33:34PM -0400, Anton J Aylward wrote:
    | On Thursday, October 21, 1999 10:37 AM Adam Shostack said:
    | 
    | > Russ and Scott have commented on the taxonomy issue, so I'll add that
    | > the CVE is also not a database.  The closest analogy is either a
    | > multi-lingual dictionary or the latin name for a species (although
    | > this is a bad analogy when you dig deep.)
    | 
    | The multi-lingual database makes sense.
    | The latin name for a species is a result of a taxonomy.
    | Its not the same thing.
    
    "the CVE is also not a database"  Thus, I'm saying, in agreement with
    what Scott and Russ posted, that its not a taxonomy nor a database. 
    
    | Of course you could just stop calling it a "taxonomy" and I'll stop
    | berating you for it.
    
    I never called it a taxonomy.  Stop anytime.  :)
    
    | > That is a critical part of
    | > starting to share information about vulnerabilities in a structured
    | > way.  Such sharing of information -- being able to agree on what
    | > you're talking about -- is a critical precursor to doing a scientific
    | > analysis of the problems that exist.  (You can do science without it,
    | > but its hard.
    | 
    | Damn right.
    | Taxonomy, as many writers on the history of science have pointed out,
    | is the basis of a science.   However, there are many pseudo-sciences
    | (e.g. close encounters of the Nth kind) that also employ taxonomy
    | and statistics to bolster their credibility.  Having a taxonometric system
    | doesn't make you a science, lacking one doesn't mean you're not a science.
    | Some sciences, for example psychiatry, which overused the category "schizophrenia",
    | have been crippled by inappropriate classification schemes.
    
    Good, we can agree now.
    
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    					               -Hume
    



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