Re: FW: BlackIce Defender???

From: Rick Smith (rick_smithat_private)
Date: Wed Oct 27 1999 - 07:31:10 PDT

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    At 09:29 PM 10/26/99 -0700, Robert Graham wrote:
    >Disclaimer: I have something to do with Network ICE.
    >
    >BlackICE Defender is a scaled down version of BlackICE Sentry, our network
    IDS
    >agent. We basically built a host-agent out of the network-agent, then added
    >personal firewall capabilities.
    >
    >The term "personal firewall" is sort of an oxymoron -- because the whole
    point
    >of firewalls is to have a many-to-one relationship (many machines behind one
    >firewall). It's kinda pointless to have a one-to-one relationship, you can
    just
    >as easily harden the system in the first place. 
    
    Disagree. The point of firewalls is to provide a centralized point of
    control for security relevant network activities. This is useful for one
    machine or many, and no doubt it's the reason Windows 2000 has connection
    filtering built in. It lets you explicitly identify what services you want
    to pass through your public connection and what you want to block. This is
    much easier than somehow locating all applications that might use the
    socket interface at one time or another to provide or use an arbitrary
    service.
    
    Estimates in the DoD run around 1 to 2 days of work for a trained
    administrator to seriously harden a commercial OS. Plus, you have to redo
    it whenever you make a significant administrative change to the system
    (i.e. install one more application). Kiddies, don't try this at home --
    while I expect many colleagues on this list may be up to the task, most
    people aren't.
    
    I like the idea of a graphical network traffic/attack monitoring capability
    bundled with firewalling. This would give a less sophisticated user (like
    someone at home) the ability to see what's happening and block things
    accordingly.
    
    
    Rick.
    smithat_private
    "Internet Cryptography" at http://www.visi.com/crypto/
    



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