Re: Hackers and gateway systems

From: Steven M. Bellovin (smbat_private)
Date: Sun Oct 31 1999 - 16:22:43 PST

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    In message <381CD85B.708867D7at_private>, Benjamin Smee writes:
    > "Steven M. Bellovin" wrote:
    > > 
    > > In message <1310EC43D374D211A74100104B09669004E82008@DUNTX004>, "Plymale, C
    > hery
    > > l" writes:
    > > > Hi,
    > > >
    > > > Does anyone know of a court case where a hacker was exonerated in part
    > > > because of "Welcome"  was displayed on a gateway system?
    > > 
    > > I've looked very hard for that, and repeatedly asked folks who claim they k
    > now
    > > of such a case to send me a pointer.  Thus far, I've found nothing.
    > > 
    > > I repeat my plea -- if you know of such a case, please send me some sort of
    > > verifiable citation or pointer.
    > 
    > 
    > Hello,
    > 
    > I cant send a verifieable link, however, I can say in my previous job as
    > a security consultant I used to give a number of presentations and as
    > part of those presentations I had material that talked about a couple of
    > cases in the USA that illustrated this precise point. I believe the
    > bottom line was not necessarily the wording of "welcome" but rather that
    > there was no statement clearly indicating to the attacker that what he
    > was doing was illegal. Apparently the attacker claimed ignorance of any
    > wrong doing and was let off in at least the two cases I used to cite.
    
    Lots of security consultants have said this -- but none have been able to 
    point at a particular case.
    
    		--Steve Bellovin
    



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