1) Lets avoid the MS bashing , it achieves nothing especially, when the other half of my firewall alerts appear to be from *nix boxen...... 2) bearing in mind the above, your points 2) and 3) have validity for *all* software developers. Unfortunately "the consumer" these days gets annoyed if their remote control does not change channels when "the consumer" just thinks of changing channels. Oh and for 3) they already have , it is their security mailing list :-) The PC and the net is becoming more and more a commodity item "plug and go" This thread discusses ISP responsibility, but forgets there is no chance that all the countries in the world would adopt that standard or even one state in the US...... regards Dean -----Original Message----- From: terry white [mailto:twhiteat_private] Sent: Friday, 28 September 2001 11:30 a.m. To: incidentsat_private Subject: Re: Nimda et.al. versus ISP responsibility on "9-27-2001" "Luc Pardon" writ: : I'd like the opinion of the list on the attitude of ISP's versus : worms. It is clear that we're going to see more of this. ... having read all current responses to this question, it seems like 'treating the symptom' the default choice. couple of things to consider here. (1) this 'readership' assumed the wherewithall to deal with security issues. that expertise, when coupled with the ability to chastise those not having it, clearly an error. (2) M$ targets users that have no interest in security issues. 'blaming' that user for (a) what they do not know, or (b) may never be able to comprehend, just so much crap. (3) M$ 'has' to be the ultimate locus of a solution to 'their' flawed software. leaving it to 'their' customers, a cruel irony. maybe M$ could invent something like a "Windows Update" kinda thing ... -- ... i'm a man , and i can change , if i really have to , i guess ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided by the SecurityFocus ARIS analyzer service. For more information on this free incident handling, management and tracking system please see: http://aris.securityfocus.com *************************************************** This e-mail is not an official statement of the Waikato Regional Council unless otherwise stated. Visit our website http://www.ew.govt.nz *************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided by the SecurityFocus ARIS analyzer service. For more information on this free incident handling, management and tracking system please see: http://aris.securityfocus.com
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