RE: Information Needed on Malicious Traffic

From: Jim Butterworth (res0qh1mat_private)
Date: Thu Jul 10 2003 - 17:17:16 PDT

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    I would offer that any number, without some serious metrics behind it,
    is a swag, and only applies within the area (network) studied.  For
    instance, I have not done a study personally, but would bet that
    military networks see the higher degree of attempts than, say,
    happymom.com sort of sites.  They are both connected to the internet,
    but one is a target of opportunity and a defaced website might mean the
    difference between being accepted by a hacker group, and continuing an
    amateur career as a script kiddie.
    
    The same would hold true for financial institutions vs. business
    storefronts.
    
    I think a real interesting statistic would be the amount of malicious
    packets that emanate from county library and internet cafés.  As these
    are largely unregulated, my guess is that these would be a hot bed of
    activity.
    
    I can tell you that on the network I defend the number is less than 1%.
    This is most likely due to our placement within the Global Information
    Grid, and the defensive measures between "Us" and "Them".  To give you
    some bandwidth stats, inside our backbone (ATM) we run about 35%
    loading, and outside our edge switches (100MB 802) we average about an
    85% load.  Our network averaged on the area of 450,000 SNORT alerts a
    day.  By definition, all these packets (most admittedly false positives)
    met the criteria of an alert based upon a rule.  Is this a "malicious"
    packet?  Depends on the degree of maliciousness you are after.  You
    might try and narrow your search pattern down a little bit.  
    
    Warmest Regards,
    Jim Butterworth, GCIA
    
    "I'd rather try and fail, than do nothing and succeed"
                                                      - Robert Schuller
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Piyush Bhatnagar [mailto:piyushat_private] 
    Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:23 PM
    To: incidentsat_private
    Subject: Information Needed on Malicious Traffic
    
    Hi All,
    
    I am doing some research on the amount of malicious traffic on the
    internet.
    
    In your opinion, what percentage of traffic entering your networks (and
    on
    the internet) would you consider as dirty? By Dirty traffic I mean to
    refer
    to the traffic that is un-desired or malicious which could contain
    traffic
    related to attacks, probes, spam etc.
    
    I have read a few white papers from some security product vendors and
    the
    claims range from 5% to 30%.
    
    Any responses will be welcome.
    
    Thanks,
    Piyush
    
    -
    Regards, Piyush
    ==========================
    Piyush Bhatnagar, CISSP
    piyushat_private
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