Re: more info on a hopefully unsuccessful compromise

From: LiNERROR (linerrorat_private)
Date: Sun Jul 13 2003 - 22:04:22 PDT

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    yes i have, i just posted a little more information to better facilitate 
    the constant barrage of questions and answers, and to present an actual set 
    of questions that i am looking for answers to rather than continue with the 
    "your too stupid to now what your doing" answers that i have received.
    
    the difference between the accounts is almost none... 1 is the default 
    admin account with a strong password that shows up in the user manager. the 
    other three should not be there, and are not in the user manager, yet, you 
    can still access the system with the use of one of the three "ghost" accounts.
    
    it's a little of setting to come in one day and find two systems on the 
    back waters of your network with the ability to be connected to with 3 
    passwords you never set.
    
    I tried to disable the default admin account in an attempt to perhaps lock 
    out the "ghost" accounts. however when i tried to i was presented with a 
    lovely message that the admin account can not be diabled.
    
    presently there are 4 sets of login/password  that can login to the systems
    admin with my password
    admin with admin reversed
    admin with admin and
    admin with nothing...
    
    i am not aware of 2k having the ability to have one account with multiple 
    passwords... and if i am mistake how would i disable the other passwords.
    
    LiNE
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    At 12:56 PM 7/13/2003 -0700, you wrote:
    >LiNERROR,
    >
    >I think you've posted this before to the list...
    >
    >First off, all three of the "accounts" you have listed
    >have the same username...Administrator.  Yes, it is a
    >mystery as to why you can connect to this/these
    >account(s) with any of the three password
    >configurations.  In your previous post, you did not
    >specify what is the difference between these
    >accounts...the account names are all spelled the same
    >way, so they are presumably the same
    >account...correct?
    >
    >And you're also saying that there is no Administrator
    >account in the User Manager...correct?  Since
    >Administrator is the default name of the account w/ an
    >RID of 500, one then has to ask, did you change the
    >name of the default Administrator account?
    >
    >Perhaps the reason for your repost is a lack of
    >responses to your first post.  If that is the case,
    >maybe providing some additional information your part
    >would be helpful.  After all, you state that these
    >accounts do not exist in the User Manager, but then
    >you later state that you tried to disable the
    >Administrator account and could not.  It would seem to
    >be me that both of the conditions cannot exist.
    >
    >Harlan
    >
    >
    >--- LiNERROR <linerrorat_private> wrote:
    > > upon running an audit on one of my networks Retina
    > > 4.90 discovered two
    > > systems, running windows 2000 pro, with sp3 and all
    > > updates with what
    > > appeared to be multiple administrator accounts.
    > > snip ---
    > > Accounts: User: Administrator Pass: rotartsinimdA -
    > > Account password
    > > reverse of account
    > > Accounts: User: Administrator Pass: Administrator -
    > > Account password same
    > > as account
    > > Accounts: User: Administrator Pass: - Account with
    > > no password
    > > snip ---
    > > However the system shows no evidence of these
    > > accounts in the user
    > > manager...  but the accounts are there.
    > > i can connect to the system using my specified
    > > Account and password... AND
    > > the three above.
    > > Only these two machines have ghost accounts that i
    > > know of,  due to my
    > > network setup i do not think anything has owned
    > > these to machines just
    > > yet... i checked my traffic logs and nothing has
    > > left these two machines
    > > over the network.
    > >
    > >
    > > I've never seen this before and was wondering if
    > > anyone knew anything than
    > > might help me figure out what has cause this and
    > > 1.) how i can remove these ghost accounts? (they
    > > don't show up under the
    > > user manager)
    > > 2.) how would i be able to find other ghost accounts
    > > since Retina only
    > > scans for default accounts?
    > > 3.) How can i DISABLE the administrator account in
    > > 2k? (i get an error
    > > message when i try and disable it that the account
    > > can not be disabled)
    > >
    > > All help is appreciated
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
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