On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 23:03, jmjonesat_private wrote: > Yes, and he will want (and the LD's will want) more information than "we > think we did this right." I can (and have, honestly (embarrassed-giggle)) > spent 5000 or 1,000,000 hours doing something that is "wrong." That's a > fear here, but I don't think it's unarguable that LSM is a good > solution... I'd just like to "pre-argue" some of the merits. I don't think that anyone other than you is afraid. > > >2) you're not willing to actually sell the patch on it's merits, beyond > > >the assertion that it "meets a (differingly interprettable) statement by > > >Linus"? > > > > Hardly. We're just not willing to have that debate *again* here in this > > forum. It is redundant. The next interesting form of this debate will be > > when LSM meets the non-LSM people who need to accept it. But discussing > > again here is just incestuous intellectual wanking :-) > > No, it's not redundant. This forum has made decisions, and many of them > have either been argued or defaulted. We have a product, based on all > those decisions. You're saying that self-evaluation is not valuable. > We all set out to do things, but sometimes we deflect and diverge... this > discussion is *critical* to getting LSM accepted, IMHO. What is critical is determined by the people who do the coding. It seems that the people who are doing the coding disagree with you on this issue. I did a quick search of google, advogato, and sourceforge for you. It appears that you don't write any open source software. > > We know, but this discussion is not helping, just distracting. > > No. You're creating a product... a product that will have to be accepted > by a group larger than those creating it. You're near the end, I think, > so a little "what if they say" is useful, now, for practice and/or > self-evaluation. Is that not true? No it's not true. It's just theorising by someone who appears to have no knowledge of how things really work. Couldn't you take such discussions to your local LUG mailing list or something? -- http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/ Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/projects.html Projects I am working on http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page _______________________________________________ linux-security-module mailing list linux-security-moduleat_private http://mail.wirex.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-security-module
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