-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Valdis.Kletnieks@private wrote: > On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:12:30 EST, John Richard Moser said: > > >>Uh. I read my code like a thousand times, I was pretty sure I found all >>bugs. I'm used to you know, not having any; but I'm used to writing my >>entire codebase from scratch, so I usually know what the *entire* >>program does. >> >>I was surprised, is that wrong? > > > Yes, you were wrong. The fact that one can produce a mostly bug-free codebase > from scratch (and I'll quickly point out the *vast* difference between > "bug-free" and "no reported bugs") only shows that you know how to produce > fairly small and self-contained programs. > > Being able to write a 10K standalong program is *vastly* different than being > able to write 10K lines that will fit bug-free into a 10M line program. And a > few days of lurking on lkml will show that *nobody* at the top is "used to not > having any" bugs - even Linus has at least one "OK, so I'm an idiot" posting > a month. Yeah well, if I could keep the whole program and its foundation concepts in my head I could write bug-free code :/ I don't have that kind of brain though. Nobody does. Of course, there's a trick to it. When I write my own code, I understand what each part (each function, each module, each library) does. As long as you keep your API straight, you can do it perfect. Thing is you have to know exactly what each function does; if there's a bug, it's isolated into a specific function, and easy to fix. Obviously I overstepped my bounds thinking I could do the same thing with code I don't understand. Wasn't that foolish. Well, I wanna put this to the test, so I'm trying to figure sqlite out and I'm working on something large. We'll see how well I can keep up writing my own package manager and administrative tools. Though visually it's all the same, when you understand it, working code is beautiful and broken code is ugly to look at. I want it to be perfect. wtf I'm ranting stfu > > Even DJ Bernstein and Don Knuth don't claim to write totally bug-free code. ;) I heard Knuth maintains one program that's had no bugs in 10 years. - -- All content of all messages exchanged herein are left in the Public Domain, unless otherwise explicitly stated. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFB/Hh+hDd4aOud5P8RAuXiAJ4y785ITG5UU+cu2LRgKzeOR+rZzwCff/9T C10Y5xtFeD0HFJzdUukHtTw= =f6eT -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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