Re: [logs] Logs & the great unification theory

From: Stefano Zanero (stefano.zaneroat_private)
Date: Fri Jun 21 2002 - 04:22:17 PDT

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    > Why Neural Nets instead of other statistical mechanisms?
    
    Just to see if they are fit to this purpose :-)
    
    I've seen a lot of "proposals" for using NNs for IDS, but I cannot find an
    example of "real" case study. I do not mean, of course, something that can
    be actually put in a production environment, but an attempt to apply them to
    some real data and see how they behave.
    
    On the contrary, studies and even real systems using other statistical
    methods have been proposed and implemented, and widely researched.
    
    And, as you add - Neural Networks are so cooooooool for a dissertation :P
    
    > One problem with NNs is that they are good
    > for doing matching of data against established baselines, but they don't
    > necessarily tell you how the data deviate from the baseline.
    
    This is exactly one of the questions I will try to answer: is it possible to
    "reverse map" the output of such a neural network system to give alerts of
    any practical value ?
    
    > If we could tell you that, we'd just be building signature matching
    systems. :)
    
    No no, I think I didn't explain myself.
    
    What should we look for anomalies on ? Syslog data as-is ? Network raw
    packets ? Anything in between ? In other words, what do you think a NN
    system for anomaly detection should look at ?
    
    Stefano Zanero
    
    
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