Re: [logs] Secure Central Log Host

From: Tevfik Karagulle (tevfikat_private)
Date: Wed Dec 04 2002 - 14:00:40 PST

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    Hi,
    
    Wouldn't it be enough to configure your central log host as an NTP server
    for machines generating syslogs or other logs ?
    
    As long as all those machines are placed in a high capacity network, drift
    problems would be minimal and under control. If this is really a big issue
    for your network and environment, you might also consider out-of-band NTP
    sync.
    
    In that way, It is also possible timestamping all syslog entries (or other
    logs!) centrally by taking time related issues into consideration.
    
    Best regards,
    
    Tevfik Karagulle
    ITEFIX Consulting
    
    mail tevfikat_private, web http://www.itefix.no
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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Matt Bing" <mbingat_private>
    To: <loganalysisat_private>
    Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 6:59 PM
    Subject: Re: [logs] Secure Central Log Host
    
    
    > mjr said:
    > > lot of simplifying assumptions you can make about logs:
    > >         - they are inserted in event-sequence
    >
    > I think this is an important point to stress. syslogd records entries with
    > the timestamp from the originator. In a networked environment this can
    > be misleading when correlating logs based on that timestamp due to clock
    > ambiguities or drifts. Log correlation should take into account the
    > strict sequencing [1] that an "append-to-disk" centralized log system
    gives
    > you.
    >
    > [1] As "strict" as you can get when taking into account packet loss,
    > network congestion, kernel buffering and other extenuating factors.
    >
    > --
    > Matt Bing
    > NFR Security
    > Rapid Response Team
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