Surely the trick with this approach is to define the metric and the timeframe you're sampling over -- and this is where IMHO the wetware comes in, and you have to define to the system what it is you're interested in, which I think was part of MJR's issue with the SAS consultants several messages ago. Another point is that a statistical exception can still be a false positive. For example, running a small email campaign through our corporate email system could look to a statistical analyzer like a worm, as would the app that builds our daily log analysis summaries. Anyway, that aside, don't forget to have your statistical exception analysis look for unusual *lack* of activity as well as a spike -- a deviation in "normal" in either direction is noteworthy. I'll let the statisticians argue with you about sample sizes and uncertainties in some of the low end ranges you quite, though ;-) FWIW Phil >-----Original Message----- >From: >loganalysis-bounces+toby.kohlenberg=intel.com@private >[mailto:loganalysis-bounces+toby.kohlenberg=intel.com@private >oo.com] On Behalf Of Anton A. Chuvakin >Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 7:58 PM >To: Marcus J. Ranum; loganalysis@private >Subject: Re: [logs] most popular reports...? > >>Here's my list: >> N should be considered a settable parameter > >Oh, my - you surely missed something, Marcus. Where is all the: > >- Bottom N Accesed Ports >- Bottom N Event Types >- Bottom N ... > >Event rarity rules! Definitely. In fact I'll take a second and mention my favorite use for statistical operators- telling me about anything that changes significantly. Don't tell me when you see some random event, tell me when the number of events of a specific type increases by 50%. That give me 0->1, 1->2, 2->3, 3->5, 100->150, etc... Which means that I catch all the rare events and I catch the large changes in the noisy events. t _______________________________________________ LogAnalysis mailing list LogAnalysis@private http://lists.shmoo.com/mailman/listinfo/loganalysis _______________________________________________ LogAnalysis mailing list LogAnalysis@private http://lists.shmoo.com/mailman/listinfo/loganalysis
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