RE: Industry Definitions... possible? was Re: Security Audit

From: zamler (zamlerat_private)
Date: Mon Sep 17 2001 - 20:03:59 PDT

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    I think that one major point of fact is missing in your definition of an
    assessment and an audit.  An audit is more concrete.  It is an attestation
    of controls.  An audit means a third party has assessed the controls and
    states an opinion on the environment and controls.  IT audits can range from
    self selected controls review like a SAS70 or Section 5900 or a Systrust or
    Webtrust which is predetermined...
    my 2 cents anywho.
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Steve Goldsby [mailto:sgoldsby@integrate-u.com]
    Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:06 AM
    To: pen-testat_private
    Subject: RE: Industry Definitions... possible? was Re: Security Audit
    
    
    I simplify to my clients like this:
    
    - A security assessment is a measurement of your organization against best
    practices
    - A security AUDIT is a meansurement and validation of your posture against
    your own implemented practices.
    
    Best,
    
    Steve
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: MCOHENat_private [mailto:MCOHENat_private]
    Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:48 PM
    To: pen-testat_private
    Subject: RE: Industry Definitions... possible? was Re: Security Audit
    
    
    All,
    
    As someone that works as an internal IT Auditor, I need
    to make a quick point.
    
    The term security audit is extremely misused.  This all
    started when the Big 5 firms began to perform security
    assessments.  Next thing you knew, all the boutique firms
    where selling "security audits"
    
    Audits, at least in the US, should be governed by the
    rules of the AICPA, IIA, ISACA and the standards of
    COSO and COBIT.  Other wise what is being performed
    is an assessment.
    
    Audits focus on risks and controls.  Security is
    one of many components that are reviewed.  Audits
    use tests to determine if a control is functioning
    properly.
    
    Much the way Architects and Engineers and trying to
    preserve the professional requirements of these titles
    from the computer industry, I'm trying to do the same
    for Auditors.
    
    Regards,
    Michael
    
    
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