Re: Hacking demo - most spectacular techniques

From: talisker (taliskerat_private)
Date: Wed Oct 03 2001 - 14:11:03 PDT

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    Ilici
    
    Good choice!  it's one thing to scare them witless but I'd suggest that you
    take the opportunity to let them know that with a little work (and money)
    the problems can be largely fixed.
    
    My suggestion is make it quick, simple and remote
    
    1a. recon.  run a vulnerability scanner against a host and demonstrate the
    kind of info your network has on offer to the hacker.
    
    1b. defense.  Run the same attack again this time but with a remotely
    installed BlackICE Agent (NNIDS) in full paranoid mode on the target.
    
    This demonstrates not only how quickly a defense can be deployed, but the
    lack of returns to the attacker is evidence that the defense works (simple).
    
    Another option is to use an auto responding NIDS to protect the target but
    this is a touchy subject.
    
    2a.  attack.  Run one of the many exploits that you mention, but have a Host
    IDS installed which will alert on it's use.
    
    2b.  Defense.  Run a host vulnerability scanner against the host that will
    auto-fix and close the exploitable hole  SecurityExpressions by Pedestal
    will do an NT host in just over a minute, but there are a few others that
    are good.  There you go scare and fix
    
    I mentioned remote, it's important to not go near the target machine,(or
    they'll cry foul) all the above could be carried out across the globe with
    ease.  Attack from a laptop ideally a tiny one like the Toshiba Libretto
    (size of a video cassette)
    
    Hopefully the above will not only introduce your sceptics to the threat but
    also demonstrate a large proportion of the defense in depth arsenal
    
    
    -andy
    http://www.networkintrusion.co.uk
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Ilici Ramirez" <ilici_ramirezat_private>
    To: <pen-testat_private>
    Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:53 AM
    Subject: Hacking demo - most spectacular techniques
    
    
    > Hi all,
    >
    > We intend to make a short demonstration of hacking as
    > part of a longer seminar with more than 100 IT
    > managers, vice-presindents, and other high-level
    > morons. The goal is to explain how easy is to hack an
    > unsecured system or network.
    >
    > For them to understand and to realize how just only an
    > unsecured computer could lead to compromise of an
    > entire business we need to show some hacking examples
    > real spectacular.
    >
    > So I need your help to make a top short list. I will
    > insert here my humble opinion, but I expect more from
    > all of you experienced pen-testers.
    >
    > 1. Remote VNC install - GUI session on target machine
    > 2. BO2K or Subseven
    > 3. Port redirection with fpipe - a firewall is not
    > always enough
    > 4. Remote shell with netcat
    > 5. Null session - information gathering with no right
    >
    > Ilici R
    >
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