We looked at Attack Trees at OWASP (http://www.owasp.org) ages ago. More important things got in the way (like building Web Scarab and the Input / Output API's) but we played with UML Sequence diagrams and it certainly was a effective way of doing attack trees. http://www.owasp.org/pen-test-list-phf.gif is the only old example I can find now of the classic Phone Book script. A good Open Source freeware tool is Poseidon Commuity Edition from www.gentleware.com Worth pointing out they seem to have been derived from earlier work by Jeff Voas and Gary McGraw in their books Software fault injection. On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 18:22, lit sec wrote: > Attack Trees, eh? > > I've had a look at the Java-based solution over at http://www.amenaza.com/ . Looks like it might suit your needs. Fairly easy to use, and does a hell of a lot more than Visio. Here's a quote: "(Amenza) ...the developers of SecurITree, a risk assesment tool and methodology that can help your organization determine possible threats to your IT systems and how to best ward off these threats." > > -Luddites.Canada > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Kruse, Darren (DEH)" <Kruse.Darren2at_private> > Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:30:18 +1030 > > >I'm puzzling over what is the best way to draw attack trees. > >Attack trees provide a formal, methodical way of describing the security of > >systems, based on varying attacks. Basically, you represent attacks against > >a system in a tree structure, with the goal as the root node and different > >ways of achieving that goal as leaf nodes. > >Bruce Schnier's Secrets and Lies - Digital Security in a Networked World > >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471253111/qid=1016671800/sr=8-1/ref= > >sr_8_67_1/002-8209990-0206427 , in particular chapter 21 covers Attack Trees > >There's also a DDJ article on attack trees > >http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=896/ddj9912a/9912a.htm (also by Bruce > >Schnier) that covers virtually the same ground as the book. > >I'm thinking that it would make a really good motivational tool for > >management to see what all the threats are against our systems. > >Having a documented attack tree would also help me in identifying what holes > >,and threats I need to worry about RIGHT NOW ! > >My first thought was to wade in, and start drawing with Visio - making use > >of the layers feature to distinguish between different sets of values.. > >Possible / Impossible Cost script kiddie tool released ? > >etc.. > >But does anyone know of a more "closely-suited" tool than Visio ? I've done > >a google search on "attack tree" software, and come up blank. > >There are cheaper alternatives to Visio - maybe Kivio mp > >http://www.thekompany.com/products/kivio/faq.php3 ?? Unfortunately, the KDE > >version (Kivio without the mp suffix) doesn't do layers. :-( > >Would a web interface be better ? - certainly for navigating between > >threats, but how about when you want to see a larger part of the tree ? , or > >the whole attack tree ?? > >Maybe MS Project ? - it's good at showing inter-related tasks , that have > >dependancies and costs, and can output to HTML as well. > >How about when I want to add , or share bits of someone else's attack tree ? > >It would be cool to be able to download discrete sub-branches, just like you > >download additional Snort IDS signatures. > > > >Darren Kruse CCNP CCDP > >WAN/LAN Networking Consultant > >Mobile : (+61) 0407 446 399 > >mailto://darren_kruseat_private > >http://www.geocities.com/darren_kruse > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >This list is provided by the SecurityFocus Security Intelligence Alert (SIA) > >Service. For more information on SecurityFocus' SIA service which > >automatically alerts you to the latest security vulnerabilities please see: > >https://alerts.securityfocus.com/ > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is provided by the SecurityFocus Security Intelligence Alert (SIA) > Service. For more information on SecurityFocus' SIA service which > automatically alerts you to the latest security vulnerabilities please see: > https://alerts.securityfocus.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is provided by the SecurityFocus Security Intelligence Alert (SIA) Service. For more information on SecurityFocus' SIA service which automatically alerts you to the latest security vulnerabilities please see: https://alerts.securityfocus.com/
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