[Two responses follow from Yale students. If anyone has a mirror of the article in question, please do send it along. --Declan] ******** From: [politech reader and yale grad student]@yale.edu Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:14:55 -0500 To: <declanat_private> Subject: Re: FC: Yale U orders campus paper to yank Bush daughter story from web Declan, More background: the Rumpus is a campus tabloid/humor magazine that pushs the limit by poking fun at the campus, students, faculty and administrators. They have an annual 'sexiest people on campus' issue, for example, complete with photographs and few are spared. The Bush article seems to be in keeping with Rumpus' wonderful tradition, and the Administration's lax support for free speech (see the three articles below) seems to be consistent. Last year Rumpus dared to publish the names of members of the secret societies, for which 'someone' stole all of the issues of the tabloid to prevent the names from coming out. Anyone punished?...naaah. See http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=12158 http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=12142 and http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=12065 ********** Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 14:09:44 -0400 From: Nat <nathaniel.echolsat_private> To: Declan McCullagh <declanat_private> Subject: Re: FC: Yale U orders campus paper to yank Bush daughter story from web Declan-- The University does not have a terrific track record on these matters, but neither does Rumpus. Last year almost all copies of the "freshman issue" of a conservative publication were trashed by freshman counselors. The sole reason for this was the magazine's advice to skip certain workshops on sexual health etc. that consistently manage to offend a great number of students. The administration at various levels stonewalled, threatened, and possibly lied to the editors when they complained- hardly appropriate considering the counselors thought of themselves as acting in an "official" capacity. Rumpus, however, is about as warm and cuddly a symbol of 1st Amendment rights as Larry Flynt. They routinely publish articles so rude as to be nearly libellous; at one point they published the names of two students under investigation in a sexual assault case- presumably over the furious objections of the administration: http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=10022 I'm frankly surprised the magazine hasn't gotten in more serious trouble; if it weren't so frequently hilarious, and occasionally totally correct, I think most students would be delighted to see it go. Their site is on the university server, and they receive office space and funding from Yale College. I seriously doubt the administration is trying to curry favor with the new president (it's painfully obvious at times that neither cares much for the other), but George H.W. Bush is visiting on campus this weekend and remains, as far as we know, on excellent terms with the University. Publishing unsubstantiated gossip about the granddaughter of one of our most important alumns is not in especially good taste, and I find it hard to blame the university for this, especially after they've tolerated such brutal personal attacks in the past. -Nat Echols '02 ********** From: "Ethan Ackerman" <eackermaat_private> To: <declanat_private> Subject: RE: Yale U campus paper & FYI Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:09:37 -0700 Any hint of where the article might be now, as it looks like Google doesn't have it cached? (http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.yale.edu/rumpus/+Yale+Rumpus&hl=en) is there, but blank, athough other rumpus articles are in Google's cache. (http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.yale.edu/rumpus/archives/00-01/apr il/april01.pdf) and similar parsings based on the site's past nomenclature turn up blank too. The FYI: UW's Center for Law, Commerce, & Technology is begining its 2nd Annual Conference this evening, (http://www.law.washington.edu/Lct/conference2.html) Among other presenters (including Dave Farber) WA Senator Cantwell & AG Gregoire will be giving updates on the nat'l & state efforts at protection (& or regulation) of the Internet. Should be interesting, given WA's continuing readiness to tackle state-level Internet protections, & Cantwell's tech past and current seat on the Senate Judiciary Committee. (Disclosure: obvious self interest here; I'm a research fellow at the Center.) Regards, Ethan ********** Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 12:51:13 -0500 From: "Matthew G. Saroff" <msaroffat_private> Reply-To: msaroffat_private To: declanat_private Subject: Re: FC: Yale U orders campus paper to yank Bush daughter story from web Think about who is in the White House. This guy said that, "There ought to be limits to freedom." in response to a parody site. This came from either the head of the Secret Sservice or from the White House. I think that it's kind of cool that Barbara ditch her SS escort. -- Matthew Saroff ********** Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:45:38 -0700 From: lizard <lizardat_private> To: declanat_private Subject: Re: Yale Censors Student Paper Over Bush Daughter Flap declanat_private wrote: > > http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=15559 > > Published Friday, April 20, 2001 > Rumpus scolded for Bush story > Yale tells tabloid to yank Secret Service story from its Web site > > BY CHARLOTTE DEWAR > YDN Staff Reporter > > Trachtenberg was critical of the story's accuracy and appropriateness, and > called it "the most irresponsible kind of press that could possibly happen." > > [...] > > **** Lizard says:Trachtenberg lacks imagination. I can think of far more irresponsible things... ******** ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if it remains intact. To subscribe, visit http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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