Previous message: http://www.politechbot.com/p-02776.html ********* Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 07:20:57 -0600 To: declanat_private From: "Randal J. King" <rjkingat_private> Subject: Re: FC: Bill Gates: Open source software only exists 'cuz of Microsoft In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011109132307.01d3b3a0at_private> At 12:23 PM 11/9/01 , you wrote: >Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 17:43:07 -0500 (EST) >Message-Id: <200111082243.RAA03265@out-of-band.media.mit.edu> >From: Lenny Foner <fonerat_private> >To: declanat_private >Subject: Any more spin, and I'm going to throw up >http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/134363780_microsof >t08.html > > Gates also took some credit for the genesis of open-source software. He > said > Microsoft made it possible by standardizing computers: "Really, the > reason you > see open source there at all is because we came in and said there > should be a > platform that's identical with millions and millions of machines," he said. > >[Surely we don't have to point out that open-source software originated >LOOOONNNNGGG before computers were smaller than the size of rooms, >yes? At any number of government and research labs and universities, >right? Well, maybe lots of people need to -keep- pointing this out.] O.K. - I was an early (mid-70's) contributor to the Bell System operating system called UNIX. Back in those days, computers were made out of wood and we liked it that way. Memory was not measured in terms of Gb, Mb, or even Kb, it was measured in terms of pounds because it was all iron doughnuts called "core plane". My first big memory purchase was about 2.5lbs. I think this was 1Mb and it cost many thousands of USD. Permanent, safe storage was saving your data to 8-level mylar punch tape. A Bell System group out of Piscataway, N.J. was a distribution point for UNIX to the world. Essentially, universities could order up a 9-track 800BPI tape with full source for the cost of the media. Two universities that did this with what I consider to be the most visibility were Berkeley and Purdue. Berkeley even re-wrote pieces of the source and re-distributed it as the Berkeley Source Distribution (BSD-UNIX). Bill Joy (co-founder of Sun) was very instrumental in leading the charge there. Many other universities jumped on the bandwagon, and a little project that got kicked off in the late 70's called "Netnews A", coupled with a defense project called ARPAnet planted the seeds for today's Usenet and Internet, respectively. Early telephone networking was done almost exclusively via UUCP (UNIX-to-UNIX Copy Protocol), and later by a very robust version called HoneyDanBer-UUCP (Peter Honeyman, David A. Nowitz, Brian E. Redmond, authors). My hardware contribution was product manufacturing engineering of the fastest modem at the time - the Bell System 212A "Data Set" - screamin' 1200 baud. It, too, was about 2 pounds plus the wall brick. I would counter that the only reason Microsoft exists to the level it does is because of these early forward-thinking Bell System people, coupled with the brilliance of people in the ARPA project like the late Jon Postel that laid a foundation on which MS launched products. Granted, this success was not handed to MS, and surely there is some contribution from Redmond, but I would expect to see a little more homage being paid by them to the folks who did the hard pioneering work and released their results openly to the world. Randy King ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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