FC: Kuro5hin.org reader reportedly investigated by U.S. Secret Service

From: Declan McCullagh (declanat_private)
Date: Wed Dec 05 2001 - 07:07:39 PST

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    Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 10:22:24 +1100 (EST)
    Subject: US secret service investigates kuro5hin.org reader
    From: "Ian Cumming" <ianat_private>
    To: declanat_private
    
    Declan,
    
    I've only been subscribed to your list for little while, but I thought people
    might be interested in this.
    
    A poster to Kuro5hin.org (a site discussing technology, politics and culture)
    was apparently questioned by the US Secret Service about a comment he
    made on the site. The comment regarded methods of infecting a person with
    smallpox, in reply to an article theorising a smallpox attack.
    
    You can read about the incident on kuro5hin's temporary page (their co-lo is
    moving) - http://www.kuro5hin.org
    
    cheers,
    Ian
    
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    Kuro5hin.org is down for unrelated reasons, but the post in question is 
    available via Google's cache here:
    http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:hnr2WC2xC1s:www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2001/10/4/3591/14167%3Fpid%3D15+kuro5hin+lee+malatesta+smallpox&hl=en
    
    It says:
    >I can think of two ways to have a decent shot of infecting the VP. Use 
    >some sort of aresolizer. Infect an suicide-ready individual. The first 
    >method seems to me to be prone to discovery if one wants to make certain 
    >of getting the VP. Given that vaccines work after infection but before 
    >onset of symptoms, hitting the VP with an aerosolizer of some sort would 
    >give a very large clue to the Secret Service as to what was happening.
    
    The report of the visit by the Secret Service is here:
    
    http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=24310&cid=2634875
    >At the conclusion of the interview (which involved searching my house to 
    >which I aqueisced) the agents told me that probably nothing would come of 
    >it, but the decision on whether to prosecute or not was up to the attorney 
    >general's office. I'm still not entirely sure how my comment can be 
    >construed as an actual threat, but I do understand why secret service 
    >agents are a bit high strung about now.
    
    Kuro5hin.org's editors say:
    >I've talked to Lee, and believe that he's not making this up. The comment 
    >in question was this one, attached to the smallpox story. (Google cache is 
    >the best). Basically, Lee was visited at work by a couple of Secret 
    >Service agents, who asked him some questions about the comment, in an 
    >attempt to
    >ensure that it was not a credible threat. He was a little frightened, but 
    >I don't think anything came of it.
    >While I have great doubts about the wisdom and cost-efficiency of 
    >following up a comment like this, given that I have a really hard time 
    >imagining what kind of person could actually read that as a threat that 
    >warranted investigating, it doesn't seem like Lee's civil liberties were 
    >violated in any way, and he wasn't dragged off to some secret chamber for 
    >the third degree.
    >Our government is doing a lot of things we Americans should probably be 
    >worried about, but I think this is just dumb, not actually evil.
    
    -Declan
    
    
    
    
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