Previous Politech message: http://www.politechbot.com/p-04068.html The "Architecture Of Modern Political Power" is here: http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/ --- Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:54:15 -0500 From: [deleted -DBM] To: declanat_private Subject: Re: FC: The ugly truth about Republican "conservatives," by Kevin Tuma This might be a good time to refer (or re-refer?)cerebral readers to the "Architecture Of Modern Political Power" AMPP which, by the way, refers to your list in several places on that online book.. I reckon you might know the author. Perhaps you sent that reference out in the past, but as a new reader I haven't seen it. The AMPP definitively dispells myths such as this, and exposes the mechanisms and intentions of such bait and the ensuing flailing.. Clinton was an uber socialist with the same motives and backers as the current skull and bonehead crew. They're lookin' to do the gun grab thing here soon.. lets see what happens.. No need to forward my name or address any further though... :-) bein' an employee in the military industrial complex --- Subject: Re: FC: The ugly truth about Republican "conservatives," by Kevin Tuma From: Ryan Marsh <meat_private> To: declanat_private Date: 11 Oct 2002 14:46:59 -0500 Declan, what a wonderful article. Having been raised a "Conservative Republican" I can't agree more. The Conservatism my father taught me, what I recognized in Reagan (though he made mistakes too), what I saw as a young boy in the local leaders that we helped elect, and what I learned protesting with my father, is not the GOP party. I grew up thinking I was a Republican because I thought I saw Conservatism in the Republican party. My father and the local men and women we helped elect were Constitutional Conservatives in the strongest sense of the word. They worshiped the Bill of Rights, The Constitution, and the ideals of our Founding Fathers. I also thought I was a Republican because I feared the special interest whoring I saw in the Democrat party. The Democrats, I thought, were socialists, and worse, they would rather us be subjugated to the U.N. become a police state and lose our sovereignty. I see now that my own party is just as big a whore (but to rich cronies), and is nothing short of Nationalistic and dis-compassionate. Don't get me started on the reason why no Judge in my county will run on a Democrat ticket. I also see that the GOP is socialist too. Look at our health care industry, it's a managed economy with a handful in control. It's an oligopoly instead of being owned by the gov't, and it's enforced by Republican legislators. I've seen over the past few years my entire family grow to resent the GOP just as much as we do Democrats. Kevin is right, "the most conservative Americans around today are libertarians". -ryan -- Humans are the unfortunate result of a local maximum in the fitness landscape. www.ryanmarsh.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Like Politech? Make a donation here: http://www.politechbot.com/donate/ Recent CNET News.com articles: http://news.search.com/search?q=declan -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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