Alex Halderman did not reply to Politech. Previous messages: http://www.politechbot.com/p-04200.html http://www.politechbot.com/p-04198.html -Declan --- From: David Wagner <dawat_private> Subject: FC: Princeton student is latest to say he could be sued under DMCA To: declanat_private Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 21:56:13 -0800 (PST) Declan, This might not be as far-fetched as you might think. Princeton can only guarantee a legal defense against civil suits; they can't indemnify against a possible criminal prosecution. The DMCA comes with felony prohibitions on violations. Having looked at this issue in the past (due to concerns that I or my students might be sued), I couldn't fault anyone for being concerned enough about the criminal provisions of the DMCA to censor themselves. After spending many hours with lawyers examining the implications of the DMCA, I personally have stopped doing work on copyright protection systems due to the legal overhead and uncertainties. I consider this a cautious, but not irrational, response to the DMCA. Feel free to print this comment in politech if you like. -- David Wagner --- From: "Robert Killingsworth" <rkillingsworthat_private> To: <declanat_private> Subject: Re: Princeton student is latest to say he could be sued under DMCA Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 23:08:31 -0800 Declan, Just last week, Alex Halderman presented one paper on the subject at an ACM conference in DC (see http://crypto.stanford.edu/DRM2002/prog.html). Is it a different one that he plans to present in the spring? Bob --- Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 10:54:15 +0000 From: David Cantrell <davidat_private> To: Declan McCullagh <declanat_private> Subject: Re: FC: Princeton student is latest to say he could be sued under DMCA On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 11:14:43PM -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: > [Yes, this fellow could be sued, I suppose, but the suit would almost > certainly be thrown out of court. (Rule 11 sanctions, anyone?) Also, I'm > confused: Princeton has guaranteed a legal defense, but the student > self-censored the paper anyway to avoid hypothetical DMCA liablity? Maybe > Alex can explain. See: http://news.com.com/2010-12-950229.html --Declan] He is concerned that even though the university has guaranteed to defend him, they might lose the case and he would be liable? -- Grand Inquisitor Reverend David Cantrell | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david --- [Of course Dmitry Sklyarov was an employee of a for-profit business, not a university researcher. The DMCA treats the two classes of people differently. --Declan] Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 10:31:33 +1100 From: Nathan Cochrane <ncochraneat_private> Reply-To: ncochraneat_private Organization: The Age newspaper Hi Declan Researchers, especially visitors to the US, have very real concerns about the DMCA. Look what is happening to Dmitry Sklyarov after Adobe put the Feds on to him. I spoke to Reihaneh Safavi-Naini and Yejing Wang from the University of Wollongong in New South Wales (Australia), who presented their paper on "traitor tracing", a technique that allows Hollywood to track down pirates, at ACM's digital restrictions management conference, "DRM 2002". They have presented at previous events and the spectre of prosecution or litigation under US laws is very real to them. Safavi-Naini, a 20-year security research veteran, is a critic of the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) - a contested law designed to strengthen copyright holders' rights over that of citizens and researchers. The DMCA applies heavy penalties to academic researchers seeking to strengthen security schemes. "Last year, I had to sign an agreement that if I am arrested because the content of the paper would have been interpreted as in breach of DMCA it is my responsibility and not ACM. It was bizarre." She says organisers have inexplicably dropped the requirement for this year's conference. Under the DMCA law, if overseas researchers were found to be in breach, they could be arrested, deported and refused re-entry to the US. MORE: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/11/02/1036027090590.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Like Politech? Make a donation here: http://www.politechbot.com/donate/ Recent CNET News.com articles: http://news.search.com/search?q=declan -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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