--- Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 09:56:27 -0800 To: Dave Farber <daveat_private>, Declan McCullagh <declanat_private> From: Jim Warren <jwarrenat_private> Subject: fwd: Federal Polygrapher Calls for Outlawing Countermeasure Info Cc: "George W. Maschke" <maschkeat_private> Back in the chaos of the [previous, '60's] anti-war movement, I had a neighbor/friend/activist who had to take a polygraph test (don't remember from whom nor why). He studied carefully; took the test ... and passed with flying colors -- even though he was "guilty" as hell (of whatever). He was just an average college dropout; not an experienced or trained professional liar. Ever since then, I've looked at claims and uses (abuses?!) of polygraph testing with GREAT -- well EARNED! -- distrust ... and certainly understand why their use is (always???) banned in criminal court prosecutions. Now, a Dept of Defense polygraph expert -- who TEACHES how to mislead a polygraph (thus proving it can be learned and done) -- wants to limit such knowledge only to the elite few. One more step in our dangerously malignant police state ("Patriot" Act, DoD/Poindexter's TIA, "Patriot" II, etc.). However, thanks to this effort to censor what he teaches to The Chosen Ones, I've heard for the first time (below), of a free e-book that appears to disclose for freedom-lovers (whether we deserve freedom, or not) some/many of the secrets that the DoD ex-spurt seeks to censor. I just downloaded my copy -- before the thought police prohibit it. Should you? --jim Jim Warren; jwarrenat_private, technology-related public-policy advocate [Soc.of Prof.Journalists-Nor.Cal.James Madison Freedom-of-Information Award; Electronic Frontier Foundation Pioneer Award (1992, its first year); Playboy Foundation Hugh Hefner First-Amendment Award (1994); founded the Computers, Freedom & Privacy Conferences; blah blah blah] At 4:51 PM +0100 2/25/03, "George W. Maschke" <maschkeat_private> posted in FOI-L: >Paul M. Menges, the federal polygraph examiner who teaches the >countermeasure course at the Department of Defense Polygraph Institute has >published an article in which he calls for the criminalization of public >speech about polygraph countermeasures. His proposal would ban books like >AntiPolygraph.org's popular free e-book, The Lie Behind the Lie Detector. >I have written a formal response to Mr. Menges' commentary: > >http://antipolygraph.org/articles/article-029.shtml > >George W. Maschke >AntiPolygraph.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Like Politech? Make a donation here: http://www.politechbot.com/donate/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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