--- From: "Mackenzie, Kate" <mackenziekat_private> To: "'declanat_private'" <declanat_private> Subject: Australia to outlaw spam Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:49:55 +1000 Hi Declan, It seems that the folks in Canberra have been getting overloaded with Nigerian scams and Viagra ads.. The Aust government is acknowledging it will be difficult to police as most spam received here is from overseas, but say they are in talks with the US International Consumer Protection and Enforcement Network, and approaching the OECD and APEC about it too. Spammers to face jail Kate Mackenzie APRIL 16, 2003 UNSOLICITED email will outlawed and spammers could face prison sentences, after a dramatic about-turn from a federal Government taskforce charged with examining the issue. http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,6293171%5E15306%5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html --- From: "Nathan Cochrane" <ncochraneat_private> To: <declanat_private> Subject: An Australian perspective to Lisa Dean's comments Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:18:42 +1000 Message-ID: <00a601c303cf$44439820$405002a0at_private> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Hi Declan I don't know Lisa Dean, or the group she represents. However the same "support our troops" mantra is being sung in Australia from the PM John Howard and down to the right wing commentators in the news. It's as if the US Government had sent the same script to the Australian and British PMs, so they could all speak with one voice. The view is that you support the troops once deployed to avoid the myth of the spat-upon VietNam veteran. That myth was debunked: http://www.thevoicenews.com/News/2003/0228/In_Response/R03_Bernard-re_Barlow.html The arguments from the supporters of the war here and overseas follow that even if you didn't agree before the troops were sent, you should now support them -- and by externsion, the war. This logic is intellectually bereft. An objection persists regardless of the decision to deploy troops. Rather than nullified or voided, the objection is compounded. Our troops are not zombies, or indentured serfs. They are free to make their own decisions, and to question the legality and morality of the orders they are given. It is their obligation not to follow illegal or immoral orders. Several of our soldiers on the way to the Gulf recently refused anthrax injections because they did not believe the assurances they were given that they were safe. They were returned from active duty, but AFAIK were not otherwise disciplined. It shows that troops can legally disobey orders that are not sane. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/02/13/1044927740605.html So if the troops decide to fight in an illegal, immoral and highly questionable war, then they do so without my support. That is their decision and I do not support that decision so how can I logically and in good conscience support them? I can forgive them, but I can't support them. What Australians said about the Australian troops who refused injections on the way to the Gulf. http://www.smh.com.au/yoursay/2003/02/13/index5.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ Like Politech? Make a donation here: http://www.politechbot.com/donate/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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