[The dubious AONN.gov site notwithstanding (http://www.politechbot.com/cgi-bin/politech.cgi?name=aonn), if a .gov site points to this legislative survey, I'd also conclude it's real. --Declan] --- Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 11:42:33 -0400 From: Rick Zeman <rzemanat_private> Subject: Re: FC: Is Florida government legislative survey real? or spam? or both? To: declanat_private cc: politechat_private -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 9/9/03 at 1:32 AM (-0400), Declan McCullagh <declanat_private> wrote: >From: ericgoldmanat_private >To: declanat_private >Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 23:28:43 -0400 >Subject: FW: Legislative Survey > >I'm finding it hard to believe this is real, but I can't find an obvious >flaw. If it is real, this is a shocking display of gov't incompetence >(check out the meek footer). If it's not real, it's a pretty clever way >for a spammer to get contact info. Eric. ><http://www.myfloridahousemail.com/septsurvey/public/eupdate.php> This is a good one. My first thought was fraud, especially since every technical indicator led that way (all DNS records being updated today, etc). However, <http://www.flsenate.gov/welcome/index.cfm>has a link to <http://www.myfloridahouse.com/> in the lower left, and fishers haven't managed to spoof .gov addresses yet. This confusion is a good reason why the governments should only be using .gov, .mil, or state.us addressing. Regards, -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP13054eEzuA9MIVhEQKh7ACfeaVT4oqCCJ67NUsXg9f2QAw8TuwAn261 P1ksxO80hZuSA3CU6qCJLQJI =NW8a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- To: declanat_private Cc: hmurrayat_private Subject: Re: FC: Is Florida government legislative survey real? or spam? or both? Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 02:10:59 -0700 From: Hal Murray <hmurrayat_private> > If it is real, this is a shocking display of gov't incompetence Looks that way to me. google-groups gets only one hit on myfloridahousemail, but that says it represents "many" hits. IP whois on www.myfloridahousemail.com => 206.201.185.71 says: OrgName: Florida Legislative Data Center OrgID: FLDC-1 Address: 111 W. Madison St. Rm.G08 City: Tallahassee StateProv: FL PostalCode: 32399-1400 Country: US Whois on myfloridahousemail.com says: Florida House of Representatives (TKVSHKZAXD) 402 S. Monroe Street 1201 The Capitol Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300 US -- The suespammers.org mail server is located in California. So are all my other mailboxes. Please do not send unsolicited bulk e-mail or unsolicited commercial e-mail to my suespammers.org address or any of my other addresses. These are my opinions, not necessarily my employer's. I hate spam. --- Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 13:02:44 +0200 Subject: Re: Florida government legislative survey real? From: Gregoire Seither <gregoireat_private> To: Declan McCullagh <declanat_private> Cc: <ericgoldmanat_private> Hi declan, Does Eric know about www.samspade.org ? The domain is owned by Florida Legislative Data Center, so this seems to be legit... and indeed "a a shocking display of gov't incompetence" :-)) --- Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 09:36:26 -0400 From: Chris Scott <chrisat_private> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030723 Thunderbird/0.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: declanat_private Subject: Re: FC: Is Florida government legislative survey real? or spam? or both? Declan McCullagh wrote: >--- >From: ericgoldmanat_private >To: declanat_private >Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 23:28:43 -0400 >Subject: FW: Legislative Survey >I'm finding it hard to believe this is real, but I can't find an obvious >flaw. If it is real, this is a shocking display of gov't incompetence >(check out the meek footer). If it's not real, it's a pretty clever way >for a spammer to get contact info. Eric. Hi Declan, Looks real enough considering the domain registration: Domain Name: MYFLORIDAHOUSEMAIL.COM Administrative Contact: Florida House of Representatives (ONBTLKQGNO) baker.mikeat_private 402 S. Monroe Street 1201 The Capitol Tallahassee, FL 32399-1300 US 850-488-6026 Technical Contact: Network Solutions, Inc. (HOST-ORG) customerserviceat_private 21355 Ridgetop Circle Dulles, VA 20166 US 1-888-642-9675 fax: 123 123 1234 Record expires on 27-Feb-2005. Record created on 27-Feb-2003. Database last updated on 9-Sep-2003 09:30:39 EDT. Domain servers in listed order: HCSSUN01.HCS.NET 204.194.36.14 HCSTLH01.HCS.NET 204.194.36.2 hcs.net hosts much (if not all) of the State's Web sites and DNS--see also WHOIS and a traceroute for sunbiz.org, the Fla. Dept. of State's site. -- Chris Scott ------------------------------------------------------------------------- POLITECH -- Declan McCullagh's politics and technology mailing list You may redistribute this message freely if you include this notice. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe to Politech: http://www.politechbot.com/info/subscribe.html This message is archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Declan McCullagh's photographs are at http://www.mccullagh.org/ Like Politech? Make a donation here: http://www.politechbot.com/donate/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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