[Politech] States forciby collecting DNA samples from newborns? [priv]

From: Declan McCullagh (declan@private)
Date: Thu Dec 04 2003 - 11:56:18 PST

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    Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 08:56:07 -0600
    From: Jules Siegel <jules_siegel@private>
    Reply-To: jules_siegel@private
    To: declan@private
    Subject: States collecting newborn DNA samples
    
    
    Interesting thread from drugwar.com on dna collection issues. Anti-drugwar 
    activist Ed Forchion reports that he is fighting New Jersey's demand that 
    he submit a DNA sample or return to prison. Another subscriber responded 
    with the news that "Tangentially, every baby born in some states, is being 
    subjected to relinquishing a blood sample, which is then kept in a state 
    warehouse."
    
    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: Re: [drugwar] Re: New Jersey Gov. can "KISS MY ASS" I'm not giving it!
    Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 06:39:49 -0800 (PST)
    From: Erin <hbmama1999@private>
    Reply-To: drugwar@private
    To: drugwar@private
    
    I agree completely with Ed on this one, from my
    limited understanding of the issue.
    
    Tangentially, every baby born in some states, is being
    subjected to relinquishing a blood sample, which is
    then kept in a state warehouse.  This was true in
    Michigan, when I gave birth there, and I've heard it's
    true in other states as well.
    
    I don't have a lot of info about where things
    currently stand, but I was disturbed that my first
    son's blood sample, taken supposedly to run a PKU
    screening ( a blood screen that tests for rare, but
    serious and preventable diseases), turned out to be
    warehoused in a state facility.
    
    I wrote a few letters to elected folks before my
    second child was born...then third, and they said that
    yes, this concerned them, and they'd "look into it".
    As far as I know, it's still being done, though.
    
    I took babies number four and five, born at home in
    MD, to a midwife in PA who uses an independent lab for
    the tests, but my first three now have samples ready
    and waiting to incriminate them, should they ever be
    suspected of committing a crime.
    
    As I recall, one of the reasons given for doing this,
    was to assist law enforcement investigations in the
    future.
    
    Erin
    
    
    --- Preston Peet <ptpeet@private> wrote:
    >No offense Ed, I ask this only because I'm curious-
    >     What harm would it cause you to give then DNA?
    >I'm not at all saying you
    >should or that you shouldn't, I'm only asking what
    >difference it will make
    >were you to do so. Does it really mean so much that
    >you will do more jail
    >time to make your point?
    >     I wish you the best of luck whatever happens
    >regardless.
    >Peace,
    >Preston
    >
    >----- Original Message ----- From: ED FORCHION - U.S. DISSIDENT
    >To: njweedman@private
    >Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:56 AM
    >Subject: DNA: New Jersey Gov. can "KISS MY ASS" I'm
    >not giving it!
    >
    >12/2/2003 -
    >I'm not sure how many of you on my e-mail list have
    >followed my fight with
    >the state of New Jersey over its new law mandating
    >DNA testing but I'm at a
    >cross road this morning. (1) I'm supposed to be off
    >ISP (parole) on Dec 3rd
    >tomorrow, ( http://www.njweedman.com/released.htm )
    >(2) The state of New Jersey has ordered me to
    >provided DNA today at 10am or
    >I will be arrested and my ISP release will be
    >revoked! - In the past I've
    >filled a "Writ of Habeas Corpus" before the federal
    >courts seeking an
    >injunction against this new law - you can read it
    >here:
    >(http://www.njweedman.com/dna.htm )
    >I've written to the Gov and the CODIS ( DNA
    >collection unit) that I will not
    >provide DNA, so this maybe one of the last e-mails I
    >write as a semi-free
    >person. I maybe going to JAIL for refusing to comply
    >with an
    >UNCONSTITUTIONAL law! PLEASE READ MY LETTER:
    >(http://www.njweedman.com/dna_sample_refusal.htm )
    >I'm hoping, you internet webmasters and reporters
    >will spread the word of
    >this DNA case and please "REPORTERS" quote me - GOV
    >KISS MY ASS!
    >
    >Do you Yahoo!?
    >Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
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