[Politech] Three replies defending Google from the pro-regulatory privacy crowd [priv]

From: Declan McCullagh (declan@private)
Date: Tue Apr 13 2004 - 11:39:39 PDT

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    [I'm starting to suspect that these pro-regulatory privacy folks who
    are so upset about Google are really just anti-advertising. They claim
    Gmail's text scanning (done entirely by a machine) is so awful and
    invasive and intrusive. And of course they do this from the comfort of
    their own email accounts, which are text-scanned by an anti-spam
    program (also done entirely by a machine). What's the difference?
    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: Re: [Politech] California state senator wants to ban Gmail [priv]
    Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:18:55 -0400
    From: Jedidiah I. Sorokin-Altmann <jedidiah.i.sorokin-altmann@private>
    To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private>
    References: <407C0802.5000509@private>
    Gmail isn't an invasion of privacy--the real intrusion is Senator
    Figueroa's proposed legislation. While Gmail might be like having a
    massive billboard in the middle of your home, it is like having a
    massive billboard in the middle of your home that YOU asked to put
    there. Nobody is going to be forcing people to switch over to a Gmail
    account. While Figueroa's intentions might be good, she should spend
    her energy telling people why Gmail is bad and trying to persuade them
    not to use it. Legislating what e-mail service people can use is an
    abuse of governmental powers.
    ~Jed Sorokin-Altmann
    Dartmouth Civil Liberties Union, President
    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: RE: [Politech] California state senator wants to ban Gmail [priv]
    Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 12:46:04 -0500
    From: Greg Kavalec <Greg@private>
    To: 'Declan McCullagh' <declan@private>
    CC: <Senator.Figueroa@private>
    We here in Texas hereby offer Google the use of our fair state to host
    their GMAil services.
    And they need not worry, unlike California we aren't a Democratic
    Peoples Republic.
    G.Waleed Kavalec
    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: 	Spend our tax dollars on getting a privacy policy of your own 
    - don't worry about Google!
    Date: 	Mon, 12 Apr 2004 23:21:58 -0700
    From: 	Zack Linford <zl@private>
    To: 	<Senator.Figueroa@private>
    Dear Senator Figueroa,
    I am writing today because I am concerned about a recent article I read
    on News.com regarding your recent "call to arms" against Google's GMail
    web services - as referenced in the link below:
    It strikes me as both hypocritical and shortsighted that you should
    position the public's view in a negative light against Google for
    privacy violations, when the contact form on your own website is
    completely devoid of any privacy policy or terms of use. 
    That said, I applaud Google's efforts to push technology forward a step
    - while happily admitting the extent of their privacy intrusions for
    advertising purposes. Nearly all contextual advertising including
    pop-ups, banners, hotmail accounts, etc contain sophisticated user
    behavior analysis - from cookies to search metrics - which could be
    construed as privacy violations.
    Bottom line - at least Google is offering full disclosure of their
    privacy policies up front which allows users to make a choice! Your
    website, however, leaves the privacy issue muddled and damages your
    credibility as a senator that purports to understand digital privacy
    Zack Linford
    Operations Director
    Swift Internet Services, LLC
    zl@private <mailto:zl@private> 
    SD 858-625-4200
    SB 805-964-8999
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