[Politech] Another round on IPI and "attacks of open-sourcers" [ip]

From: Declan McCullagh (declan@private)
Date: Tue Apr 20 2004 - 21:30:56 PDT

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    -------- Original Message --------
    Subject: Re: [Politech] Replies to IPI fending off "attacks of 
    open-sourcers" [ip]
    Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:34:25 -0400
    From: Tony Lauck <tlauck@private>
    To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private>
    CC: politech@private, wsimpson@private
    References: <407CC785.4090602@private>
    OSI failed for a number of reasons, but none of these involved billions
    of dollars being spent by telephone companies or other organizations on
    proprietary products.   OSI was an unsuccessful attempt to develop a set
    of publicly available international standards which could be used by
    anyone to build interoperable networks.
    OSI failed because it overreached the technical possibilities of its
    time, and attempted to do so within the straight-jacket of a
    bureaucratic multi-level international standardization process.  In
    addition to being slow, this process continually added complexity as a
    method of political compromise.  TCP/IP succeeded because it avoided the
    “second system syndrome” and because it had a small core of visionaries
    and decision makers who were able to keep most unneeded complexity out
    of the architecture until after it had achieved critical mass in the
    marketplace.  Early U.S. Government funding was critical to creating and
    sustaining this critical mass.
    Those pondering transition of central control of the Internet to
    international organizations ought to ponder the history of OSI.
    Tony Lauck
    Manager of Network Architecture at Digital Equipment Corp., 1978-1994
    Declan McCullagh wrote:
    > -------- Original Message --------
    > Subject: Re: [Politech] IPI successfully(?) fends off "attacks of 
    > theopen-sourcers" [ip]
    > Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 15:15:11 -0400
    > From: William Allen Simpson <wsimpson@private>
    > Organization: DayDreamer
    > To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private>
    > References: <407C0961.3010805@private>
    > In the marketplace, IP was a direct competitor to the private telephone
    > companies' OSI -- that failed miserably despite billions of dollars in
    > direct government investment, compared to a few measly millions in the
    > ARPAnet and NSFnet (predecessors of the commercial Internet).
    > Too broad a scope?  How about the Point-to-Point Protocol, developed in
    > open cooperation among a large number of companies, institutions, and
    > individual consultants through the IETF.  (As the Editor, I'm reasonably
    > familiar with the specifics.)  How was that derivative?
    > As an open source contributor, my PPP software proliferated into many
    > projects, including proprietary products.  And that's what allowed the
    > "common user" to dial-up the Internet, leading to an entire industry of
    > widespread Internet Service Providers.  Mass market enough?
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