Previous Politech messages: http://www.politechbot.com/2005/08/24/more-on-canadas/ http://www.politechbot.com/2005/08/24/law-would-give/ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Politech] In Canada, law would give police vast surveillance power [priv] Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 12:40:17 -0400 From: Jim Ray <liberty@private> To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private> References: <430C8E3E.1070400@private> Wait a second...Isn't Canada the country that created a whole new kind of privacy-policy bureaucrat a few years ago, to deafening silence from most and jeers from me & doubters like me? JMR (And if you think THAT's expensive and stupid, take a look at Canada's gun-tracking law$!) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: UNLawful access Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:26:38 -0400 From: Yasholomew Yashinski <yashy@private> To: yashy-hack@private, declan@private http://www.cippic.ca/en/projects-cases/lawful-access/ Michael Geist has started to cover this, but he's missing some of the real juice of it in my opinion. Take note of the "Warrantless searches" section, as well as the following: "s.342.2: Possession of Hacking tools to commit an offence: extend existing provision to cover importing, obtaining for use, and making available, and to link to mischief (430) as well as 342.1 offences. This would clearly criminalize the possession of a virus for the purpose of mischief." What exactly is a "Hacking tool"? Like a knife, gun, or hammer, almost all software tools can be used for good or evil. There are good viruses, as we all know. What does this add that existing legislation regarding the malicious usage of a virus doesn't already cover? "s.191: Possession of Interception Devices: either repeal this section or refine to allow for lawful excuse or justification as in s.342.2" What exactly is an "Interception Device"? Let's see, I have tcpdump, snoop, and ethereal all installed here. I also have several frequency scanners in arms length. As stated by another local techy "in the internet context, a 10Mb/s half-duplex "hub" is equivalent to a frequency scanner." Cheers, -- Yashy _______________________________________________ Politech mailing list Archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Moderated by Declan McCullagh (http://www.mccullagh.org/)
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