Previous Politech message: http://www.politechbot.com/2005/12/24/does-homeland-security/ -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Politech] Does Homeland Security cross-reference interlibrary loans to INS, other databases? [priv] Date: 24 Dec 2005 14:36:03 -0500 From: John R Levine <johnl@private> To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private> References: <43AD9002.2000800@private> > Unless there is more to the following story than was reported, ... In case a hundred people haven't already sent this in, the story turns out to have been a complete hoax. The student just made it up. http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/12/24/students_tall_tale_revealed/ Seasons xmas and all that. R's, John -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Politech] Does Homeland Security cross-reference interlibrary loans to INS, other databases? [priv] Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 13:59:23 -0600 From: Mihai Christodorescu <mihai@private> To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private> References: <43AD9002.2000800@private> Declan McCullagh wrote: > > -------- Original Message -------- > From: Stephen Cobb, CISSP <scobb@private> > To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private> > > Unless there is more to the following story than was reported, I think the > implications are more chilling than the headline-grabbing unapproved NSA > taps, particularly since FISA approves virtually all taps anyway. The story was later shown to be a hoax: http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/12-05/12-24-05/a01lo719.htm Let us not get worked up over nothing. Mihai -- - mihai@private - http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~mihai - ------------------------------------------------------- The man of knowledge must be able not only to love his enemies but also to hate his friends. - Friedrich Nietzsche ------------------------------------------------------- -- Feed the machine that burns in your head. -- -------- Original Message -------- Subject: HOAX: Re: [Politech] Does Homeland Security cross-reference interlibrary loans to INS, other databases? [priv] Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:26:00 -0800 From: <xeni@private> To: Declan McCullagh <declan@private> Declan, this is a hoax. Debunking post at top of boingboing today. (sent from out in the world, via keitai) Xeni Jardin co-editor, BoingBoing.net correspondent, Wired, NPR, etc. www.xeni.net -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Politech] Does Homeland Security cross-reference interlibrary loans to INS, other databases? [priv] Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:30:23 -0500 From: J.D. Abolins <jabolins@private> To: scobb@private, declan@private References: <43AD9002.2000800@private> Stephen and Declan, I have been looking at that book situation -- many things in the original story seemed off -- and there is an important update (see below). I'll post more detailled overview with other references and commentary on my blog in a day or two. Meanwhile, I believe that the Standard-Times reporter caught it spot on when he wrote, "The story's release came at a perfect storm in the news cycle" in the midst of the various news reports of US domestic surveillance and spying. Ten years ago, a "library book watchlist" story like this would been hard to believe but, now, hard to not believe. J.D. Abolins Blog: http://www.20six.co.uk/jabolins http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/12-05/12-24-05/a01lo719.htm <<< Student admits he lied about Mao book By AARON NICODEMUS, Standard-Times staff writer NEW BEDFORD -- The UMass Dartmouth student who claimed to have been visited by Homeland Security agents over his request for "The Little Red Book" by Mao Zedong has admitted to making up the entire story. The 22-year-old student tearfully admitted he made the story up to his history professor, Dr. Brian Glyn Williams, and his parents, after being confronted with the inconsistencies in his account. Had the student stuck to his original story, it might never have been proved false. But on Thursday, when the student told his tale in the office of UMass Dartmouth professor Dr. Robert Pontbriand to Dr. Williams, Dr. Pontbriand, university spokesman John Hoey and The Standard-Times, the student added new details. The agents had returned, the student said, just last night. The two agents, the student, his parents and the student's uncle all signed confidentiality agreements, he claimed, to put an end to the matter. But when Dr. Williams went to the student's home yesterday and relayed that part of the story to his parents, it was the first time they had heard it. The story began to unravel, and the student, faced with the truth, broke down and cried. <rest snipped> _______________________________________________ Politech mailing list Archived at http://www.politechbot.com/ Moderated by Declan McCullagh (http://www.mccullagh.org/)
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