Joe:
 
If YOU give notice and THEN are terminated (fired) because you gave notice, even a right to work state, you CAN sue.  The reason is that the employer is attempting to change for future employment purposes the conditions under which you left the company.  This happened to a friend of mine and he successfully sued the company (in CA for a FL based company).
 
Paul Osterwald
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Patrick Schorr, CISSP [mailto:jpschorr@hotmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 1:10 PM
To: securityjobs@securityfocus.com
Subject: Re: Article: Honesty isn't a policy, laid-off techies say

Not in a "right-to-work" state ( like FLA).  The traditional two weeks

notice and two weeks pay are voluntary courtesies (not law) on the part of
the employee and employer respectively. I learned it the hard way.

Best regards,
Joe

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----- Original Message -----
From: "ari" <edelkind@phri.nyu.edu>
To: <securityjobs@securityfocus.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: Article: Honesty isn't a policy, laid-off techies say


> Note this, however. If you give notice and as a result are immediately
> escorted off the premises, you should still be on payroll and hence will
> be paid during your final two weeks. If your superiors decide to fire you
> at that time in lieu of keeping you on payroll, the company owes you a
> severance package.
>
> Unless you signed something explicitly waiving your rights to this, you
> may sue your employer for rightful compensation.
>
> ari
>
>
> Tom.Litney@CyberKnightSecurity.com said this stuff:
>
> > As a security expert or critical infrastructure employee you should
expect
> > to be immediately walked of the premise and have all remote access
disable
> > at the point of termination. You might be expected to immediately pack
your
> > personal possession with a guard in presence or have your possessions
packed
> > for you by your line manager. This is normal practice. I'm not
defending
> > it but have enforced it in practice and required it in security policy.
Of
> > course, prior notification of pending termination would not be given.
If
> > you are an employee with sensitive access and give your notice, don't be
> > surprised if you are immediately walked of the premise. Try not to take
it
> > personally. Of course you wouldn't do something to detrimentally affect
the
> > corporation but others do not have those same high standards. In our
line
> > of work it comes with the territory. I mentioned the deviation from
policy
> > at my last position, when I gave notice and wasn't immediately escorted
off
> > the premise. They felt I could be trusted (and of course were correct).
I
> > had critical knowledge and they sucked everything out of me they could
in my
> > final two weeks. But don't count on this to happen as it should be the
> > exception.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Meritt James [mailto:meritt_james@bah.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 9:20 AM
> > > To: securityjobs@securityfocus.com
> > > Subject: Article: Honesty isn't a policy, laid-off techies say
> > >
> > >
> > > http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1007-200-6580080.html?tag=mn_hd%20arg
> > >
> > > And as a "security expert" somebody may be looking over your shoulder
> > > every moment until an armed guard escorts you off the premises.
> > >
> > > At least, that is what happened to me. Perfectly reasonable - I knew
> > > too much and could have zeroed multiple programs. Wouldn't, but that
is
> > > a different topic...
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > James W. Meritt, CISSP, CISA
> > > Booz, Allen & Hamilton
> > > phone: (410) 684-6566
> > >
>