Re: Hack / take down new Windows XP beta

From: Joe Klemencic (JKlemencat_private)
Date: Fri Apr 13 2001 - 14:35:36 PDT

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    Hopefully, the latter is the case. In fact, I am encouraged to see vendors
    starting to subject their products to public hacking attempts before it
    enters the marketplace PROVIDING the vendor either:
         a) Fixes the discovered vulnerabilities
              -OR-
         b) Publishes the vulnerabilities and work-arounds
    all prior to being released. I am sick of purchasing XYZ product, only to
    find out a week later that there is a service pack that needs to be applied
    to fix something, be it a vulnerability or simply a bug (case in point -
    every PC game introduced). I am tired of marketing running the show, and
    committing developers to meet sometimes unrealistic release dates, and
    releasing a product with known major problems. I would much rather have a
    product delayed to market by a few months and have it work, than have it be
    buggy and spend the next few months testing and applying products (I would
    like to point to the release of Win2K, for it was delayed due to
    enhancements and bug fixes, but can't since it was still released with a
    ton of known problems, some of what severe - all because of the media
    slamming them for missing their target). If a feature cannot easily be
    resolved, remove it from the released version, and offer it as a 'free'
    enhancement package later (like some of the Microsoft PLUS! enhancements
    years ago, but it was not free, and still had its share of problems). It
    seems that nowadays, no product is ever in final state. Everything seems to
    be in 'beta', with users having to pay to test the product. Once the
    product becomes somewhat stable and usable, it is end-of-lifed.
    
    Just my 1.5 cents,
    Joe
    
    
    
    
    
    
    "Robert G. Ferrell" <rootat_private>@SECURITYFOCUS.COM> on
    04/12/2001 11:54:08 AM
    
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    >(Yet Another Publicity Ploy Designed To Lull Users Into A False Sense Of
    >Security? (hmm doesn't have the same ring to it :))
    
    Or, could just be an attempt to get free security testing done before
    they go into fullscale production...
    
    Cheers,
    
    RGF
    
    Robert G. Ferrell, CISSP
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