RE: illegal cheer (was: Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.)

From: cat catzor (bahz0rat_private)
Date: Fri Sep 07 2001 - 12:44:57 PDT

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    Stop flooding my mailbox and get a job!  Damn you
    people.
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Markus Kern [mailto:markus-kernat_private]
    Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:50 AM
    To: Meritt James
    Cc: Michael R. Rudel; vuln-devat_private
    Subject: Re: illegal cheer (was: Re: CodeGreen beta
    release
    (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.)
    
    
    
    
    Meritt James wrote:
    > 
    > News flash:  You and your kin are not the entire
    world.
    >
    > Wouldn't you like M$ to pay attention to those laws?
     Where do you think
    > the vulnerabilities come from?
    
    Laws aren't solely for Microsoft. Everyone else would
    be responsible for 
    bugs in their code, too. Imagine someone is sued
    because his shareware
    ftp server has a buffer overflow. I bet Microsoft
    would love to run their
    competition's software on some of their boxen just to
    sue them as soon as
    a bug is found.
    
    > 
    > Markus Kern wrote:
    > >
    > > Meritt James wrote:
    > > >
    > > > THAT is an informative statement!  If a bit of
    consideration for the law
    > > > was made, there would be many fewer
    vulnerabilities in the first place.
    > >
    > > How would consideration for the law reduce
    _vulnerabilities_?
    > >
    > > I have to agree with Michael Rudel.
    > > When we're discussing the ethics/morals of
    something current laws are
    > > irrelevant.
    > > Laws are deduced from the outcome of such
    discussions (or that's the way
    > > I think it should be).
    > 
    > So why are YOU discussing laws, followed by a
    statement that what you
    > wrote is irelevant?
    
    My question was related to your statement that laws
    would reduce vulnerabilities.
    The rest to Michael Rudel's post. Two different
    topics.
    
    regards,
    Markus Kern
    
    > 
    > > > But thanks for the job security!
    > > >
    > > > "Michael R. Rudel" wrote:
    > > >
    > > > [snip]
    > > >
    > > > > It is illegal under current law, but
    > > > > that doesn't mean jack to me.
    > > >
    > > > [snip]
    > 
    > --
    > James W. Meritt, CISSP, CISA
    > Booz, Allen & Hamilton
    > phone: (410) 684-6566
    
    
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