Re: coding (was: Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.)

From: Robert A. Seace (rasat_private)
Date: Fri Sep 07 2001 - 13:32:28 PDT

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    In the profound words of David Schwartz:
    > 
    > 	Malicious code and exploit code, on the other hand, is more like a
    > cigarette that kills you instantly or a gun that blows up when you squeeze
    > the trigger. They're interesting to talk about and look at, but there is no
    > moral application for them.
    
    	Bullshit!  There are PLENTY of "moral applications" for exploit
    code...  Just to name a few: testing your own servers to see if they
    are vulnerable; testing your servers after patching to verify the
    patch actually worked as advertized; using the exploit in an authorized
    penetration test type of scenario; demonstrating to clueless higher
    management at your place of employment the need for applying that
    patch that they are so reluctant to do; studying the code for educational
    purposes, to learn how it works, possibly for the purpose of developing
    something to guard against it; etc...  There are many, many legitimate,
    "moral" uses for exploit code...  Code is just like any other tool:
    it can be used for either good or bad purposes...  It's not inherent
    in its design which you use it for...  There is no "good" or "bad"
    code; only code...  Plenty of so-called "good" programs have been
    used for very bad purposes...  And, plenty of so-called "bad" programs
    have been used for very good purposes...
    
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     know what you're going to say next." - TRATEOTU
    



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