RE: Possible syslogd DoS ?

From: Brian McKinney (rizzdoggat_private)
Date: Thu Oct 04 2001 - 10:44:21 PDT

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    	I could be missing something here but doesn't newsyslog solve this
    problem by rotating logs based on size, date or both?  I'm not sure if
    newsyslog is packaged with the syslog daemon or by the OS. I know for sure
    it is included with Solaris 7, FreeBSD and OpenBSD.  newsyslog is called by
    cron by default every minute on OpenBSD 2.8 so you might want to decrease
    the wait time depending on how fast your syslog daemon can write to the
    disk.  I haven't done any testing myself but it sounds like if newsyslog can
    keep up before the disk is filled you shouldn't have a problem since
    newsyslog will over write previously rotated log files.  This could be
    really trivial to defeat but thought its worth a mention.
    
    Brian
    
    
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Petr Baudis [mailto:paskyat_private]
    Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:10 AM
    To: vuln-devat_private
    Subject: Possible syslogd DoS ?
    
    
    Hello,
      I just recently came on a thought (thanks to Marek Jaros) of possible
    DoS of syslogd. It uses /dev/log for receiving log messages, which has
    mode 0666 on most linuxes. It should be ok, as many non-root applications
    should be allowed to log things etc.
      But imagine that you will send a lot of very long messages there,
    different
    everytime in order not to get stripped into kinda 'message repeated x
    times'.
    In this way, you can imho flood syslogd successfully, possibly filling whole
    partition where /var/log resides, regardless to your quota settings on
    the machine!
      Then, if /var/log is not on separate partition, the whole system can get
    into serious problems, and especially, further events won't be obviously
    logged, so you can do evil things there happily and nobody will know about
    it.
      Discussion? Something i didn't take into account? Possible solutions?
    
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