Re: Xbox (Was -Online Games Consoles and Security Implications)

From: Doug (MatrixNe07at_private)
Date: Wed Jun 05 2002 - 09:35:24 PDT

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    The DMCA isn't laid out to apply to persons outside of the U.S, but as
    Dmitri Sklyarov found out you don't even have to commit the crime in the
    U.S they will still punish you.  For anyone unfamiliar, Dmitri Sklyarov
    worked for a Russian company called Elcom, that provided a program to
    crack e-book security on the web.  Adobe then insisted that they take
    down the program, and arrest Sklyarov.  Elcom did take down the
    offending program, but when Sklyarov came to the U.S to give a speech on
    the weaknesses of e-book security at defcon, the FBI arrested him.
    Basically it all boils down to if you are in any way connected to
    something that breaks DMCA, they'll end up getting you in the end.
    
    -Doug
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Thor Larholm" <Thorat_private>
    To: "'Robert Freeman'" <freem100at_private>;
    <vuln-devat_private>
    Cc: <comat_private>
    Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:52 AM
    Subject: RE: Xbox (Was -Online Games Consoles and Security Implications)
    
    
    > This may be somewhat offtopic, but how does the DMCA 'handle' foreign
    > countries? There's quite a big world outside of the US of A, and being
    part
    > of that outside world makes me somewhat ignorant and irrelevant to any
    > restrictions laid out by the DMCA since it has no jurisdiction
    anywhere
    > else.
    >
    > Does it specifically mention how to handle 'sensitive' research
    outside of
    > its borders? Should I tripple check before planning any visits to the
    > states? ;)
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Robert Freeman [mailto:freem100at_private]
    > Sent: 5. juni 2002 03:34
    > To: vuln-devat_private
    > Cc: comat_private
    > Subject: RE: Xbox (Was -Online Games Consoles and Security
    Implications)
    >
    >
    > Sure the XBox is protected by the DMCA. However, there are six
    exemptions to
    > the DMCA, which include encryption research and security testing.
    Security
    > testing (section 1201j) requires permission whereas encryption
    research
    > (section 1201g) apparently does not. The paper stays strictly related
    to
    > encryption research, so I tend to think the author has fulfilled legal
    > obligations. On a related note, the work is beyond the understanding
    of the
    > general public, so I'd doubt MS will lift a finger. Now if somebody
    did
    > something based on the paper...
    >
    > RF
    >
    > ----- Original Message Deus
    > Attonbitus: "Deus, HammerofGod" <comat_private>
    >
    > > XBox the XBox OS protected by DRM new DRM patent?  Meaning that any
    > > security vulnerabilities could be used to enable copyright
    infringement;
    > > the publication of which would be illegal DMCA the DMCA?
    > >
    > > It will be interesting to how MS responds to this.
    > >
    > > AD
    



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